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THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL COMING OUT HERE TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET OUR MEETING STARTED.
UH, IT IS DECEMBER 19TH, 2024 6:00 PM AND IF YOU'LL ALL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WE'LL START THAT WAY.
I, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[1. REVIEW OF AGENDA BY COMMISSIONERS: ]
TONIGHT WE HAVE A KIND OF A DIFFERENT HEARING.WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE HERE IN A MINUTE.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, THEN WE'LL GET TO SOME OF OUR OTHER AGENDA ITEMS AFTER THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING HERE.
UH, THE ITEM NUMBER ONE IS REVIEW OF THE AGENDA BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA? IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.
[2. CALL TO PUBLIC FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA: Individuals may address the Commission on any relevant issue for up to 3 minutes. At the close of the call to the public, Commission members may not respond to any comments but may respond to criticism, ask staff to review a matter or ask that a matter be placed on a future agenda.]
REPUBLIC FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.THIS IS AN TIME WHEN ANYONE CAN COME FORTH, UM, KIND OF IF THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT OR AN ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY, THEY CAN COME UP AND SPEAK FOR US FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES ABOUT THAT.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT, TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT? SEEING NONE.
UM, SHE JUST HANDED ME SOME OF THESE CARDS AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE IS IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM HERE TONIGHT THAT YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT, UM, A CONCERN, WHETHER IN THE POSITIVE OR THE NEGATIVE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU FILL THESE OUT.
SO IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO, PLEASE DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE AND HEAR YOUR OPINION.
[3. CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION HEARING OF: November 21st, 2024.]
CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION HEARING OF NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024.UH, HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? UH, ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? IF THERE IS NONE, WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN FOR THE, UH, MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I'LL SECOND IT AND THE SECOND AS WELL.
UH, I ALSO FAILED TO RECOGNIZE WE HAVE COMMISSIONER HOWE AND COMMISSIONER JOHN ONLINE.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING A PART OF THIS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SHOWING UP.
[4. CONSIDERATION OF AN UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF NAVAJO COUNTY.]
NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF AN UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF NAVAJO COUNTY.AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HEAR THAT NOW.
CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS ITEM.
UM, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY ON MY SIDE, THIS IS TERRY HOGAN.
SHE'S OUR CONSULTANT WITH LOGAN SIMPSON DESIGN.
IT'S BEEN HELPING US WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, AND I'M GONNA LET HER PRESENT.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, FEEL FREE TO ASK MYSELF OR TERRY.
UH, CHAIRMAN, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M WITH THE FIRM LOGAN SIMPSON.
IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU GUYS IN PERSON.
UM, WE ARE HERE AT, UH, NEARLY THE END OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
WE'RE GONNA, UH, ASK FOR YOUR MOTION TONIGHT, UH, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE ARE GONNA GO THROUGH A LITTLE PRESENTATION HERE.
SO IF I CAN GET IT TO WORK, IS IT ON? OH, AH, ALL RIGHT.
SO, UM, AND, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, BUT FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME THINGS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OR THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
UH, ONE I'D LIKE TO, UM, GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR PROJECT TEAM, UH, FROM FROM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, FROM KRISTEN TO CODY, TO TO MISHA TYLER, EVERYBODY THAT HAS JUST BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN LEADING, UH, THIS EFFORT AS LOGAN SIMPSON.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE TWO TEAMING PARTNERS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
KIMLEY HORN THAT WORKS ON OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER RESOURCES, AND ELLIOT P*****K, UH, AND, UH, COMPANY, UH, RICK MERRIT, WHO, UH, SUPPORTS OUR HOUSING AND ECONOMIC GROWTH.
I BELIEVE THEY MIGHT BE ON THE LINE TONIGHT, UM, EITHER NOW OR LATER.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN THOSE REGARD.
SO, WITH THAT, AND ARE YOU HEARING ME OKAY? YES.
I USUALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, SO TODAY'S, UH, WE ARE GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION, UM, LATER, AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
BUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH IS, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN.
UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, THE PROCESS OF THE SCHEDULE, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, AS WELL AS WHAT'S
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IN THE ACTUAL PLAN THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.UH, OPEN, OPEN IT UP FOR MOTION, AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO, PURPOSE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
EVERY COUNTY, UH, IN ARIZONA IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN PLACE PER TITLE 11.
UH, THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, UM, REQUIRE, ARE REQUIRED TO BE UPDATED READOPTED EVERY 10 YEARS.
YOU CAN SEE THE PURPOSE STATEMENTS, UM, ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THESE ARE VISIONARY PLANS.
THEY'RE LONG RANGE POLICY DOCUMENTS THAT ARE INTENDED TO, UH, PROMOTE HARMONIOUS DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR EXISTING, UH, PRESENT, UH, GENERATION AS WELL AS INTO THE FUTURE.
UH, THERE'S OTHER THINGS, UH, WITH REGARD TO NATURAL RESOURCES, EFF UH, EFFICIENT EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC MONIES, AND ULTIMATELY PROMOTING THE HEALTH, UH, SAFETY, WELFARE, CONVENIENCE OF THE PUBLIC, SIMILAR TO, UH, TO YOUR, TO YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE IN YOUR SUBDIVISION AS WELL.
UM, THIS PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS, UH, READOPTED IN 2023.
UH, BUT THE, THE COMP PLAN HAS NOT SEEN ANY MAJOR UPDATES IN ABOUT 20 YEARS.
SO IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THE COUNTY GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND GETS A, A, A PULSE ON THE VISION AND VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY SO THAT, SO THAT YOU CAN UPDATE THAT, THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, YOU'VE SEEN THIS, UH, PYRAMID BEFORE.
SOMETIMES IT'S A, AN UMBRELLA TO SHOW, UH, HOW YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FITS IN, IN, INTO YOUR SCHEME OF YOUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MATERIAL.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHAT WE CALL A, THE FOUNDATION OR THE 30,000 FOOT POLICY DOCUMENT.
EVERYTHING GETS MORE SPECIFIC, UH, FROM THAT POINT.
EVERYTHING IMPLEMENTS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR YOUR COMMUNITY'S VISION.
SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR ZONING CODE, UH, CORRIDOR PLANS, OR YOUR AREA PLANS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE A LITTLE BIT.
YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THOSE IMPLEMENT YOUR CO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU GET INTO YOUR SITE PLANS, YOUR PRELIMINARY PLATS, YOUR FINAL PLATS, AND THEN INTO YOUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT WITH YOUR BUILDING PLANS AND YOUR COOS.
ALL OF THAT, UH, IS MEANT TO, TO IMPLEMENT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, UM, OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE 10,000 SQUARE MILES OF NAVAJO COUNTY.
UH, SO THE RIGHT HAND MAP, WE HAVE OUR STUDY AREA.
UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, TWO THIRDS OF THAT STUDY AREA IS IN SOVEREIGN NATIONS.
UH, SO WE CREATED A FOCUS AREA MAP.
THIS FOCUS AREA MAP IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT IS THE, THE MAIN AREA THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING LAND USES WITHIN, UH, WITHIN THAT AREA.
I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE, THE MUNICIPALITIES.
THE INCORPORATED AREAS, UH, INCORPORATED AREAS IN SOVEREIGN NATIONS ARE NOT GOVERNED BY THIS PLAN.
IT'S ONLY THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, ONCE AGAIN.
UH, THIS HAS BEEN A 12 MONTH PROCESS, UH, FROM PRETTY MUCH BEGINNING TO END.
UH, WE STARTED WITH OUR KICKOFFS, UH, PROJECT KICKOFF WITH, WITH THE TEAMS IN, UH, JANUARY, GOING THROUGH OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN, IN PHASE THREE AND FOUR, UH, WERE RELATIVELY CONCURRENT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WE MOVED THROUGH THESE, THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I'LL, I'LL GO OVER SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT.
AND THEN DRAFTING OF THE PLAN.
SO AS WE DRAFTED COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN, WE BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THAT, GET THEIR FEEDBACK, AND THEN CONTINUE DRAFTING.
UP UNTIL THE POINT THAT WE SEE THE STAR, WE'RE AT THE ADOPTION PERIOD.
WE GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO YOUR BODY, ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION.
YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS THE ULTIMATE, UH, ABILITY TO APPROVE OR DENY THE PLAN.
IF ADOPTED, IF APPROVED, THEN IT BECOMES FINAL AND IT WILL BE FINAL.
UH, AND YOUR GOVERNING GOVERNING DOCUMENT IN JANUARY OF, OF NEXT YEAR.
UH, THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
UM, AND ALSO A REQUIREMENT OF NAVAJO COUNTY.
SO WITHIN TITLE IX, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR BROAD-BASED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
UM, WE CREATED THIS PLAN WITH YOUR PROJECT TEAM, UH, TO ASSERT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE ON THE, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF, OF THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A BROAD REPRESENTATION OF PEOPLE, UH, WITHIN ALL OF YOUR SUPERVISOR DISTRICTS AND DIFFERENT VENUES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, BE IT VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON.
UM, CAME TO THIS BODY, UH, IN MARCH AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ASKED, UH, KIND OF WENT THROUGH OUR STRATEGY, ASKED FOR ACCEPTANCE AND RECEIVED THAT, AND THEN STARTED LAUNCHING INTO THAT, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CAMPAIGN.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE FACETS.
I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THAT, UH, SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, IT'S BEEN UP AND RUNNING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
WE'VE HAD A, A IMMENSE AMOUNT OF, OF VIEWS ON THAT.
YOU CAN SEE ALMOST, UH, 8,700 VIEWS AS WELL AS WE HAD, UH, PEOPLE HAD THE ABILITY TO SIGN UP TO THAT AND GET REGULAR UPDATES IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
SO, 71 SIGNUPS, PEOPLE COULD ACCESS THAT DIRECTLY.
UM, OR THEY COULD GO TO THE COUNTY HOMEPAGE.
ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE, WE HAD ALL THE INTERVIEWS, ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE KEPT BLASTING OUT THAT WEBPAGE, UM, HAVING PEOPLE
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GO TO THAT FOR UPDATES AND FOR INTERACTION OF THINGS THAT WE HAD ON THAT WEBPAGE.UH, THIS WAS SET UP EARLIER, EARLY IN THE PROCESS.
UH, THIS WAS OUR GUIDING AND STEERING COMMITTEE.
YOU CAN SEE THE MAKEUP OF THAT, UM, IS OUR, UH, FEDERAL, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS STATE GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS COUNTY, UH, COUNTY AGENCIES.
WE, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THE, UM, THE INPUT FROM THESE FUNCTIONALITIES TO GUIDE AND STEER THIS PLAN.
WE MET WITH THIS GROUP AT THREE STRATEGIC TIMES DURING THE PROCESS.
UM, THEY PARTICIPATED IN, IN ALL, ALL COMPONENTS OF THIS PLAN, THEY SET THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT WE BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
UM, EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, WE SET UP A ONLINE COMMUNITY QUESTIONNAIRE.
THIS QUESTIONNAIRE WAS, WAS UP AND RUNNING FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WE ALSO TOOK THIS TO ALL THE EARLY, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, EVENTS.
UM, AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS GET A FOUNDATION OF WHAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN SEE ON THERE.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU LIKE, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED? WHAT ARE OBSTACLES TO GROWTH, WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED? THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, THAT HELPED US, UH, GET INTO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.
THE ASPIRATIONS OF NAVAJO, NAVAJO COUNTY AS A WHOLE, AND THEN ALSO INTO THE GOALS OF THE TOPIC AREAS.
SO, GLEANING, UH, THIS INFORMATION, UH, FROM THIS SORT OF THING, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE DID, BUT THIS WAS A COMPONENT OF WHAT WE DID ONLINE, AND ALSO PAPER COPIES FOR FOLKS, COMMUNITY INTERVIEWS.
UH, WE WENT OUT, UM, WE, WE GENERATED A LIST WITH A PROJECT TEAM OF ABOUT 40 ENTITIES AND INDIVIDUALS.
UH, WE INDIVID PEOPLE TO, TO TALK TO US.
AND WE WOULD GO THROUGH, UM, VERY SIMILAR, UH, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD IN THE, IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE, UM, TO GET THAT FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE WERE, WERE GOING TO BRING TO THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD A FAIRLY GOOD SAMPLING OF FOLKS.
WE HAD 16, UH, COMMUNITY INTERVIEWS THAT WE, WE HELD THEM VIRTUALLY, STATE DEPARTMENTS, UTILITIES, UH, PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, UH, PEOPLE'S VOICE COMMITTEE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF, LOT OF ACTIVITY, A LOT OF, UM, INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS IN EDUCATING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND WHAT THEIR ASPIRATIONS WERE FOR THE FUTURE.
WE HELD, UH, TWO SERIES OF COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UM, AND WE HAD EIGHT, UH, EIGHT IN-PERSON EVENTS WHERE WE ENGAGED, UH, OVER 922 PEOPLE.
UH, LOT OF FUN EVENTS WHERE WE, WE, WE BROUGHT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE CRAFTED WITH THE PROJECT TEAM BROUGHT TO THIS BODY.
WE BROUGHT THOSE INTO BO IN BOARDS, INTERACTIVE BOARDS, AND HAD PEOPLE COMMENT ON THOSE.
UH, GOT GOOD COMMENTS, GOT PEOPLE TWEAKING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COMMENTS AND THE, AND THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, GIVING US SOME, SOME FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION ON THAT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WE HAD A, A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THESE, MEANT A LOT OF FUN.
COUNTY, UH, PRO PRODUCED SOME SWAG, YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE AND, AND KIDS WERE ABLE TO WIN T-SHIRTS AND ALL SORTS OF, UH, DIFFERENT PRIZES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT WAS A FUN LITTLE EVENTS THAT WE, THAT WE HELD.
UH, THIS ALSO SHOWS OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
UH, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE COVERED ALL FIVE SUPERVISOR DISTRICTS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DID THAT WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE FIVE EVENTS.
UM, AND, UM, AND, AND JUST HAD A LOT OF, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF YOUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND STAFF IN THESE, UH, UH, THESE EVENTS AS WELL.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT WERE ADVERTISED AND SENT OUT, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, PUBLIC, UH, PUBLICIZED AND E LIST, WE ALSO HELD, UH, PUBLIC AND MEETING PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HEARINGS WITH THIS BOARD, AND ALSO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THESE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT ARE ADVERTISED LEGALLY, UH, BY OPEN MEETING LAWS AND, AND OF, OF COURSE, FOLKS CAN COME TO THESE MEETINGS, SPEAK, UH, SPEAK THEIR MIND AND, AND GIVE INPUT INTO THESE PLANS.
SO THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF SOME OF THE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, UM, AND E LIST, UH, UH, POSTINGS THAT WE DID, UH, FOR EVENTS.
IN THE BACK OF THE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UH, POSTINGS THAT WE DID.
THERE WERE SEVERAL ARTICLES THAT WERE WRITTEN, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS 12 MONTH PE UH, PERIOD, GETTING PEOPLE AWARE THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, COME OUT, COME OUT AND GIVE INPUT, YOU KNOW, GET EXCITED ABOUT THE, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE POLICY DOCUMENT.
OH, HOW EXCITING, RIGHT? BUT, UM, SO WE, WE, WE DID A LOT OF EFFORT IN TERMS OF, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA WORK WITH THE COUNTY, PIO, UM, AND, AND GOT A LOT OF THIS WORD OUT AS WELL FOR FOLKS.
AND I WILL SAY, I MEAN, AS A PLANNER, I'M A TOTAL NERD ABOUT THIS STUFF.
BUT, UM, MOST PEOPLE ARE KIND OF LIKE ME.
60 DAY REVIEW PUBLIC, UH, 60 DAY PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD IS A STATUTORY REQUIRED PERIOD.
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BASICALLY PENCILS DOWN.WE DID OUR DRAFTING, WE DID OUR INITIAL INPUT, AND THEN PENCILS DOWN.
THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING DOCUMENT.
THERE'S A LIST THAT GOES OUT THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE ARIZONA STATE, RETIRED, UH, THE, THE ARIZONA, UM, REVISED STATUTES THAT WENT OUT IN DISTRIBUTION.
EVERYONE THAT WE CAME IN CONTACT WITH, THAT SIGNED UP, THAT DID INTERVIEWS, UM, THAT PARTICIPATED IN ANY WAY THAT GAVE US THEIR INFORMATION.
WE SENT OUT NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC REVIEW DOCUMENT, UH, THAT WAS BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 24TH AND 22ND OF NOVEMBER.
YOU CAN SEE DURING THAT TIME, WE ALSO HELD TWO PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS.
YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF ONE OF THOSE WE CAME TO, TO YOU.
UM, AT PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A WORK SESSION.
WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS, UH, A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS, UM, COMMENTARY, COMMENTS, UH, COMMENTS ON THE BOARDS.
WE'VE, UH, ARTICULATED ALL OF THOSE IN A SPREADSHEET, UH, GAVE THOSE BACK TO, UH, PROJECT TEAM AND ADDRESSED EACH ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS AS YOU NOW SEE IN YOUR HEARING DRAFT.
SO ALL THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN SOME WAY OR, OR, OR FASHION IN THIS DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE CONTENTS OF THE PLAN.
UM, AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA STAY ON THIS SLIDE JUST A, JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UM, STATUTORILY, UH, THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT ALL COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ADDRESS LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION.
UM, THERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE, IN THE, THE BOXES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE NINE ELEMENTS OR TOPIC AREAS THAT THE COUNTY CHOSE TO ADDRESS.
IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR, UH, COUNTY STAFF TO, TO HAVE THESE ADDRESSED WITHIN THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WE WENT FORWARD WITH, WITH ALL OF THESE NINE TOPIC AREAS, WE WANTED TO, UM, UH, THEME THEM OR CATEGORIZE THEM INTO AREAS SO THAT IT WAS EASY TO READ THIS PLAN.
YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT IS SIX CHAPTERS LONG, INTRODUCTION, IMPLEMENTATION, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE THREE DIFFERENT THEMES IN THE THEME AREAS.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAD OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE LIKE A VISION STATEMENT.
SO THEY'RE ASPIRATIONAL PRINCIPLES, ASPIRATION OF FUTURE.
AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NOT GONNA READ THEM ALL, BUT FOR PROGRESS, PROGRESS IS NAVAJO COUNTY RESPECTS THEIR HERITAGE AND RURAL CULTURE WHILE EMBRACING INNOVATIVE AND PROSPEROUS ECONOMY WITH A BALANCE OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL USES, CONNECTED WITH A WELL MAINTAINED EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT CONNECTS THE, THE DIFFERENT TOPIC AREAS IN THERE OF LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH.
AND THEN YOU MOVE TO QUALITY OF LIFE AND STEWARDSHIP.
AND ON THOSE ASPIRATIONS OR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THEN DROVE THE REST OF THAT.
UM, IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS AND POLICIES THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT, THE MOST VISUAL ASPECT OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S WITHIN YOUR FOCUS AREA.
SO IT'S IN THE AREA OF UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
UM, AND WE TRANSITION THIS FROM WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, UH, TO, TO SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ORTHODOX IN TERMS OF TERMINOLOGY.
YOUR, UM, YOUR, UH, FUTURE LAND USE, YOUR FLUME HAS CHARACTER AREAS.
AND, UM, WE HAVE TRANSITIONED THOSE TO, UH, RURAL RESIDENTIAL, OPEN SPACE, MIXED USE EMPLOYMENT, VERY SIMILAR.
THEY'RE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
SO THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THIS IS NOT AS ZONING MAP.
THIS IS FUTURE LOOKING FORWARD INTO THESE AREAS FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS 60% OF THIS PLANNING AREA.
OPEN SPACE IS 22%, SO OVER 70% IS RURAL AND OPEN SPACE.
UM, SO THOSE AREAS, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WANTS TO REZONE IN THOSE AREAS, THEY HAVE TO CONFORM TO THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION.
IF THEY CAN'T, THERE'S A WAY TO AMEND THAT.
THEY COME TO THIS BODY FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THEY GO THROUGH AND SAY, WE NEED TO DO THIS.
WE WANT TO DO THIS FOR THIS REASON.
AND THIS BODY GETS TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD, OR THAT'S NOT GOOD.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE, UH, DEVISED THIS.
I WANT TO KIND OF GO AROUND THIS, UH, MAP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE 70% IS RURAL AND OPEN SPACE.
ANOTHER LARGE PERCENT ABOUT OVER 12% IS IN YOUR AZTEC AREA PLAN.
UH, THAT IS ONE OF YOUR TWO AREA PLANS THAT ARE STILL, UH, CURRENT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S THAT MOV COLOR AND AREA PLAN.
AS THIS BODY IS AWARE, IS A SPECIFIC, WE CALL THEM MINI GENERAL PLANS.
UM, THIS LAND USE PLAN, UM, IS, IS SOMEWHAT DATED.
YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THIS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, COMING BACK TO YOU FOR POSSIBLY A ADOPTION OR AN UPDATE.
SO THIS AREA COVERS THAT AREA.
UH, WHEN SOMEBODY LOOKS AT THE COMP PLAN, IF THEY WANNA DEVELOP IN THAT AREA, THEN THEY, THEY, THEY KIND OF DO BOTH.
THEY LOOK AT THE HIGH LEVEL POLICIES IN YOUR COMP PLAN, BUT THEY, THEY ALSO LOOK AT YOUR AREA PLANS.
YOUR OTHER AREA PLAN IS IN YOUR HE HEBER OVER GUARD AREA.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, DENOTED ON THIS MAP AS WELL IN THAT KIND OF BOX.
ANOTHER THING THAT I WANNA SHOW, SHOW YOU, AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE MAPS VERY
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QUICKLY.WE, UM, IDENTIFIED MOST OF THE COUNTY IS, IS VERY RURAL IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES.
THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE, UH, ADJOINING TO YOUR MUNICIPAL AREAS.
UM, UH, SOME OF THE INCORPORATED UNINCORPORATED AREAS THAT ARE, ARE FAIRLY DEVELOPED HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES THAT ARE GROWTH AREAS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY SEES THAT THERE MAY BE MAYBE ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
MORE INTENSE USES MORE, UH, UH, DENSITY IN THESE AREAS.
SO THERE ARE SIX OF THOSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN THOSE LITTLE DOTTED LINES.
ALL GO THROUGH THESE IN THE BACK OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE ARE THESE MAPS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF ZOOM IN AND SEE THESE LAND USES.
YOU CAN SEE IN THESE AREAS, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE INTENSE LAND USES WINSLOW, OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T GOVERN THE WINSLOW AREA INCORPORATED AREA.
BUT AROUND THERE YOU CAN SEE SOME INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT AREAS, UH, IN THE HOLBROOK JOSEPH CITY AREA WHERE THERE MAY BE A, AN AREA PLAN COMING, UH, COMING FORWARD.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT INDUSTRIAL MIXED USE, SOME MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA.
UM, A LOT OF THAT IS BASED UPON WHAT'S THERE OR, OR SOME OF THE ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AGAIN, UH, GOING INTO SNOWFLAKE, TAYLOR, UH, GOING O GOING DOWN, UM, INTO, UH, THE CHOLO AREA AS YOU GO A LITTLE BIT SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THAT MIXED USE AND MULTIFAMILY IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, FURTHER DOWN INTO PINETOP, UH, LAKESIDE AND THEN UP INTO THE CLAY SPRINGS AREA.
THESE ARE, UH, POTENTIAL GROWTH AREAS.
WE LIKE TO CALL 'EM POTENTIAL 'CAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.
UH, BUT THESE, THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE ENVISION MAY HAVE SOME MORE DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN THE RECENT, UH, RECENT TIME.
OKAY? SO IN ADDITION TO YOUR VISUAL OF YOUR, OF YOUR PLAN, UH, YOUR FLUME THAT EVERYBODY LOOKS AT, UH, THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE YOUR GOALS AND POLICIES.
GOALS AND POLICIES RELATE TO EVERY ONE OF YOUR NINE TOPIC AREAS.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THEY'RE DRAFTED.
UH, THEY'RE AN ACTIVE VOICE FOR YOUR GOALS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE, UH, FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT GOALS PER TOPIC AREA, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE LIKE 12, 13, SOMETIMES 20 POLICIES THAT FOLLOW SUIT OF THAT TOPIC AREA.
WE'VE REDRAFTED THESE, WE HAVE AN AUDIT WITH YOUR PLANNING STAFF, LOOKING AT THE, THE EXISTING POLICIES GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF WHAT, WHAT IS, UH, WHAT IS VALID, WHAT NEEDS TO BE REFINED, WHAT'S MISSING.
UM, AND THEN WE REDRAFTED THESE SO THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT STRONGER.
SO YOU CAN SEE NAVAJO COUNTY SUPPORTS X, Y, Z, NAVAJO COUNTY DOES NOT SUPPORT.
SO IT GIVES CLEAR DEFINITION TO YOUR DEVELOPERS, UH, AND TO YOUR STAFF AND TO YOU OF, OF WHAT, WHAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH.
OKAY? SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND THEY'RE ALL INTERRELATED.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOUR, YOUR PLANNING STAFF GETS TO DO IS LOOK THROUGH ALL THOSE POLICIES AND GIVE THAT TO YOU AND SAY, OKAY, MY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS BASED UPON THESE 15 POLICIES.
SO, ALRIGHT, UM, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
UM, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IS NOT REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE.
I COMMEND JURISDICTIONS THAT DO THIS.
UM, THIS IS A WAY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR GEN, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ADDITION, OR ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UH, THAT IMPLEMENT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANYWAY.
YOU GO THROUGH ZONING CODE UPDATES, YOU GO THROUGH, UM, UPDATES TO YOUR AREA PLANS, YOU MEET YOUR PLANNING STAFF MEETS WITH ARIZONA STATE LAND DEPARTMENT.
THEY MEET WITH ARIZONA GAME AND FISH.
THE, WE PUT THESE DOWN ON PAPER.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, THIS IS DEVISED PER EACH ONE OF YOUR TOPIC AREAS.
UM, IT'S RELATED TO A RELEVANT GOAL WITHIN WHATEVER TOPIC AREA.
AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO YOU CAN SEE LU FOUR UH, RELATES TO, UM, LAND USE ALSO, UM, ECONOMIC GROWTH.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RELATED TOPICS TO THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ACTION.
AND THEN THEY'RE DEVISED INTO SHORT TERM, UH, OF WHEN THE COUNTY MIGHT WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
MIDTERM, THREE TO SIX YEARS IN THE LONG TERM.
AND THEN ONGOING TASKS, AND THAT'S A GUIDE.
THESE ARE THINGS, THINGS HAPPEN, GUYS, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, RECESSIONS, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, MONEY, FUNDING, UH, THESE ARE OUR BEST GUESS.
BUT THIS IS A REAL GOOD GUIDELINE FOR THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT THESE 87 ACTION ITEMS IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND SAY, WE WANNA IMPLEMENT THIS, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA GET HERE.
OKAY? WE ARE AT THE END, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, ON BEHALF OF STAFF IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE NAVAJO COUNTY 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT WILL, THIS WILL GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS UPON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE ON JANUARY 14TH.
AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY AS A TEAM, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, I HAVE ONE, UH, ONE PERSON HERE THAT IS, THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT HERE.
UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GO AHEAD AND
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SPEAK YOUR PIECE FOR A NATIVE, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL CLOSE IT TO, UH, THE PUBLIC.AND THEN WE WILL, UH, TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
I FORGOT TO PUT MY NUMBER ON THIS.
NINA TLO, 1900 LON ROAD, HEBREW OVERGUARD.
WELL, THAT COVERS SENTENCE ONE,
UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW IN HEBREW OVERGUARD.
I BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TONIGHT.
TO THE BOARD, PEOPLE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY OF STEWARDSHIP OVER THE LAND AND ITS RESOURCES, AND I ADMIRE THOSE WHO HAVE STEPPED UP TO SERVE AND CREATE THE NAVAJO COUNTY COMPREHENSION PLAN FOR ITS 25 YEAR VISION.
IT'S A VAST RESPONSIBILITY WITH VAST IMPLICATIONS, AND MANY RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED WITH THE CONSEQUENCES AND IMPACTS OF HIS GOALS.
I WAS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN WHAT IS NOT.
IT IS NOT A REGULATORY DOCUMENT LIKE ZONING OR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
IT IS NOT A TOOL TO ADVANCE SPECIAL INTEREST.
IT IS NOT AN INTERCHANGEABLE DOCUMENT.
IT IS NOT AN AREA MASTER OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THOSE KNOTS BECOME VERY RELEVANT TOWARDS IMPLEMENTING THE MARCH TOWARDS RENEWABLE ENERGY.
THE SECTIONS FUTURE LAND USE, LAND USE GOALS.
POLICY STEWARDSHIPS RECEIVE MANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE WEBSITE.
WE DESIRE ACCOUNTABILITY AND REEVALUATION ON ESTABLISHED WIND FARMS AS WELL AS PROJECTS UNDERWAY OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE VICTIMS OF, DON'T ASK APOLOGIZE LATER TACTICS THAT WORM THEIR WAYS INTO SOME PROJECTS.
PREFERABLY, THOSE EVALUATIONS AND OBSERVATIONS SHOULD BE DONE BY AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY.
THE FOLLOWING ARE MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ANSWERS REQUIRED WERE APPROPRIATE IN THE UPCOMING LAND USE ORDINANCES.
ONE, ARE FUNDS AND BILLS BEING PROPERLY, FAIRLY AND TIMELY ALLOCATED BY ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCIES? TWO, HAS THE NAVAJO RESERVATION AND OTHERS BEEN A PRIORITY TO RECEIVE ENERGY GENERATED AS PROMISED? THREE, IS THERE AN ESTABLISHED LIMIT ON RENEWABLE ENERGY FARMS, OR IS THE WHOLE MOUNTAIN OPEN FOR BUSINESS? PLEASE PRIORITIZE OUR CONCERNS OVER BLUE EARTH STOCKHOLDERS.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE NEWLY ELECTED FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION IS NEGATIVE ON FUNDING WHEN FARMS AND WANTS THEM ELIMINATED.
ARIZONA'S VOTED FOR THE, ALONG WITH THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WHO WANT COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS TO OUR ENERGY NEEDS.
SO IN CONCLUSION, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ESTABLISHED INDEPENDENT ACCOUNTABILITY PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ON EACH EXISTING WINDMILL FARM BUILT INTO THE LAND ORDINANCES.
THE RESULTS SHOULD BE MADE TRANSPARENT TO THE MAJORITY OF NAVAJO RESIDENTS BEFORE APPROVING ANY MORE FARMS. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS LISA VINCENTI AND I LIVE AT 49 21 COYOTE TRAIL.
I LIVE IN THE HEART OF WHERE PAPER MILL WANTS TO SURROUND ME IN 650 MIL FOOT WINDMILLS.
UM, I AM GRATEFUL TO BE HERE FOR THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FORMING GUIDELINES.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE LAND, THAT THE LAND MATTERS AND THAT NATURE MATTERS, AND THAT, UM, OUR TRANS, OUR OUR, UH, TOURISM DEPENDS ON IT AS WELL AS WHY WE ALL LIVE HERE.
SO, UM, IT STRIKES ME THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO, UM, AS WE ARE MOVING INTO ORDINANCES AND LOOKING AT THOSE AGAIN, AND AS WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THESE NEW PROPOSED WINDMILLS THAT ARE AROUND TURBINES, WE DON'T, WE WANNA CHECK AND SEE WHAT THE CURRENT ONES ARE DOING, HOW, HOW WELL THEY'RE PERFORMING.
ARE THEY, ARE THEY DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO? FOR EXAMPLE, AS I KNOW THE PRO THE WIND FARMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN UP, THEY WERE, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE WERE TOLD THAT THE LIGHTS WOULD NOT BLINK, UM, EXCEPT FOR WHEN THERE WAS A PLANE COMING BY.
AND THAT'S SOUNDS PRETTY RISKY AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE WHAT THINGS WERE PROMISED, AND WHETHER THEY HAPPENED OR NOT, WHETHER
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THE EFFICIENCY OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS UP TO PAR.UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW DID WHAT HAPPENED GO BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT MAKING NEW ONES.
UH, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN, UM, GETTING THE NEEDS MET OF ENERGY, GETTING THE NEEDS MET OF THE CITIZENS, GETTING THE NEEDS MET OF OUR WILDLIFE AND ALL OF THAT.
I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT NOT JUST TRYING TO SOLVE THINGS LIKE, OH, PUT IN SONIC, UM, DETERRENCE ON WINDMILLS TO KEEP THE BATS AND THE BIRDS FROM BEING DESTROYED, BUT IN A PERMACULTURE GARDEN, EVERYTHING HAS, ITS, THERE'S A GOOD MOVIE THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO WATCH.
IT'S CALLED THE BIGGEST LITTLE FARM.
AND, UM, AND THEY SHOW HOW, UH, A PREDATOR COMES IN AND STARTS RUINING THEIR FARM.
AND IF THEY JUST WIPE THAT OUT, THEN A NEW PROBLEM COMES UP AND A NEW PROBLEM COMES UP.
SO WHEN WE DETER BATS, NOW WE DON'T HAVE BATS IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TOO MANY INSECTS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO THESE BIG 30 YEAR PROJECTS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT CREATING NEW PROBLEMS. AND SECOND OF ALL THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ARE ACTUALLY GETTING TRUE BENEFIT FROM IT BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PAPER MILL WINDMILL, NO ONE IN, NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO GET A WATT.
THERE'S 4% THAT STAYS IN THE STATE, BUT NONE OF IT'S SUPPOSED TO STAY IN THE COUNTY.
UH, WE APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
UM, I, AGAIN, TERRY MADE A PRETTY GOOD POINT ABOUT HOW THEY REALLY TRIED TO DO A LOT OUTREACH.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS REACH OUT, SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY EXPRESSED WHEN THEY WERE FIRST HERE, IS HOW DO WE GET THE WORD OUT? HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT IT? HOW DO WE HEAR THE PEOPLE? SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.
UM, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PORTION OF, UH, THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS AND OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO STAFF OR, UH, OR TERRY, CAN I ASK YOU A SUPER QUICK QUESTION? UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S CLOSED.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
APPRECIATE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MIC'S OFF.
I THINK MOST OF YOU REALIZE THAT I'M NOT REALLY PRO WIND MILLER SOLAR PANELS, SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT, TO MY SATISFACTION ADDRESSES THE, THE FUTURE PROBLEMS OR FUTURE CROSS POSSIBLE PROBLEMS, THE WIND GENERATION, SOLAR PANELS AND FIRES.
I'VE ASKED FOR THAT MANY, MANY TIMES IN THESE MEETINGS AND I SEE NO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THAT IN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I THINK IT'S A TRAVESTY THAT THE COUNTY WOULD APPROVE THIS WITHOUT HAVING THINGS IN PLACE THAT REQUIRE THESE SOLAR PANELS AND WIND FARMS TO ACTUALLY ABIDE BY SOME KIND OF STANDARD RULES, ESPECIALLY IN CASE OF A FIRE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEND THIS BACK TO WHEREVER IT CAME FROM AND, AND HAVE, HAVE SOME THINGS INCLUDED IN THERE THAT ARE, ARE CLEARLY NOT, IF WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
AND THEN WHERE IS THE GROWTH? YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH.
WHERE IS THE GROWTH? WHAT'S GONNA PROMOTE THIS GROWTH? WHERE'S THE GROWTH GONNA BE? I DON'T SEE ANY MENTION OF THAT IN HERE THAT'S REALISTIC EITHER.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE 'EM WITH YOU GUYS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION TO, UH, TO STAFF OR TO TERRY REGARDING THAT I COULD
WOULD YOU LIKE MAYBE ADDRESS HIS CONCERNS? CERTAINLY MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER MURPH, UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS.
UM, SO WHEN TERRY WENT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHERE IT'S FOUNDATIONAL AND THIS IS YOUR, YOUR 30,000 FOOT VIEW AND YOU BUILD UP AND YOU GET INTO THE ZONING AND CORRIDOR PLANS, UM, WITHIN THIS, THERE ARE GOALS THAT, UH, REFER TO RENEWABLES AND A LARGE PART OF THAT, THAT'S REFERRED TO AS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S RESPONSIBLE AND APPROPRIATE RENEWABLES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, SO THIS AGAIN, IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT.
AND THEN FROM THERE WE GO UP TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE GOAL THAT IS NEXT HERE.
WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A WIND ENERGY ORDINANCE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED.
WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO GO THROUGH AND AUDIT THE ENTIRETY OF THAT ORDINANCE AS WELL AS LOOKING, ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY FOR SOLAR ENERGY.
UH, ON TOP OF THAT, UM, THAT WE DON'T CHANGE ORDINANCES WHILE IN THE MIDST OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE BECAUSE IF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UH, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE IN CONFLICT WITH IT IMMEDIATELY AFTER AND GO BACK AND CHANGE.
UM, AND IF IT'S NOT ADOPTED, WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT SITS THERE ON THE RECORD.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHICHEVER WAY THAT
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GOES.AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO GO THROUGH AND TAKE A FULL AUDIT AND LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO RENEWABLE ENERGY BECAUSE WE DO ALL UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS BEING RAISED BY THE PUBLIC.
SO AT AT WHAT POINT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN DONE YET, AT WHAT POINT WILL THE COUNTY PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING AND PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE, AND THE COUNTY MM-HMM
THAT ADDRESSES SPECIFICALLY FIRE DISTRICTS.
I, I MEAN WE'RE LIMITED TO THEIR BOUNDS AS FAR AS WHERE THEY ARE AND, AND WHERE THEY CAN BRING IN.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATION THAT'S BEEN A PART OF THIS.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN FORCE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT BOARDS AND THEY'RE SEPARATE FROM THE COUNTY.
WE DON'T HAVE A, A COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKE MANY CITIES AND OTHERWISE DO, UM, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER TIMBER MESA, JOSEPH CITY, ET CETERA.
UM, SO I DON'T REALLY GUESS I HAVE A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT AS TO HOW THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED DIRECTLY FROM THE COUNTY WITH THOSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
WELL, JOSEPH CITY FOR EXAMPLE, JUST SO WE ALL KNOW, BEGGED THE DEVELOPERS OF THESE WIND TOWERS TO PUT IN A FIRE DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RESPOND COMPLETELY ADEQUATELY WITH NO BUDGET TO DO SO.
SO I WOULD REALLY, I'M STUCK ON THIS AND I'M SORRY GUYS, BUT I'M STUCK ON IT.
SO YOU CER CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS THERE.
COMMISSIONER MURPH, I DO KNOW THAT EARLY 2025 WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD WITH, UH, AN ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING STANDARDS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY AS WELL AS ANY NEW PROPOSED CHANGES, UPDATES, ADDITIONS THERE.
UM, WE WILL, THEY'RE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THEY'RE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO BE ADVERTISED.
IT WILL COME IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION, IT WILL GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE ALL FEEDBACK INTO ACCOUNT WHILE WE REVIEW AND GO THROUGH WITHIN THE, THE POWERS OF OUR JURISDICTION THAT WE HAVE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH.
SO CODY, UH, FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID RELATIVE TO COMMISSIONER MURPH'S QUESTION, WHEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT AUDIT, THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING, WHEN THAT GETS UPDATED NEXT YEAR, WILL THIS STUFF BE INCLUDED IN THERE? IS WHAT, WHAT HE'S, THE THINGS HE'S ADDRESSING, NOT NECESSARILY THE FIRE DISTRICTS.
BUT, BUT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION RELATIVE TO THE SOLAR FARMS AND THE WIND FARMS, IT CERTAINLY COULD BE A COMPONENT OF IT GOING IN.
I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU, UH, AND NOT TO GET TOO OFF TRACK 'CAUSE IT, RENEWABLES ARE ONE PORTION OF ENERGY, WHICH IS ONE OF NINE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE THREE THEMES THAT ARE HERE.
SO NOT TO GET TOO OFF TRACK, BUT WITH THAT GOING FORWARD, FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR WIND ENERGY ORDINANCE, WE CURRENTLY DON'T ALLOW ANY, UH, PROTOTYPE TURBINES TO GO THROUGH.
THEY HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED MANUFACTURED DESIGN THAT'S, WE'RE NOT TESTING ANYTHING HERE IN THE COUNTY.
IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN OUT AND RELEASED.
SO AS FAR AS THAT, YOU CAN LOOK AT TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS AS A PART OF AN ORDINANCE AND INPUT THOSE.
IF THERE WAS A, A PREFERRED FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, THEY DO EVOLVE.
UM, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO WITH PROBABLY THE, THE STRICTER AND AS THEY UPDATE, TRY TO KEEP THOSE UPDATED AS WELL IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I'VE JUST, UM, I I KIND OF ECHO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MURPH, HIS CONCERNS.
I THINK WHAT HAS MADE ME UNEASY WHEN THIS HAS COME UP TIME AFTER TIME IN TERMS OF, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SOLAR FARM FARMS, BUT IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE, THE SAME SITUATION HAPPENING WITH THE WIND FARMS IS THE, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A SCAPEGOAT, BUT THE, THE OVERLYING THEME HAS BEEN, WELL THE FINAL WORD LEFT IS LEFT WITH THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA RULE THIS AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON, ON THE SAFETY OF IT AND HOW IT'S MANDATED AND WHETHER IT MEETS CERTAIN STANDARDS.
AND I GUESS I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT EITHER WHEN IT'S UN SUBDIVIDED, UM, UNINCORPORATED LAND HERE IN NAVAJO COUNTY THAT WE'RE ALL LIVING ON OR LIVING AROUND AND THAT WE'RE NOT MAYBE TAKING A MORE ACTIVE ROLE OR INTEREST IN SETTING SOME GUIDELINES AS FUTURE RENEWABLE FARMS COME UP BEFORE US TO MAKE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AT A LOCAL LEVEL RATHER THAN DEFERRING EVERYTHING TO THE STATE FARM MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
I, I WILL NOTE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BRINGS ANY LEVEL OF COMFORT OR NOT, WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, JUST ENCOURAGES BRINGING IN RENEWABLES.
UM, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS FOR THE ANALYSIS IS, IS SOME OF THOSE GOALS AND POLICIES THAT EXIST AS WELL AS THE IMPLEMENTATION TASKS TO
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DIRECTLY LOOK AT THIS IN THE SHORT TERM, WHICH HAS ALSO BEEN DIRECTED SEPARATELY BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.UM, WHEN WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE WORK ON THINGS, IT'S BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WHAT EXISTS IS VERY MUCH PUSHED TOWARDS RENEWABLE ENERGY AND WHAT IS PROPOSED IS TO TAKE A, A LARGER LOOK AT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT PROVIDES ANY MORE OR LESS COMFORT, BUT THERE IS THE DIRECTIVE FOR US WITHIN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO HAVE US LOOK AT THAT AS WELL AS FROM THE ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE IN THE COUNTY.
WHEN YOU GUYS DO THAT, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO KNOW AS COMMISSIONERS AND WE'RE, WE'RE THE ONE APPROVING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, HOW MUCH WE NEED? LIKE, UH, I MEAN WE'VE ALL HEARD TALKS THAT THE POWER PLANT'S GOING TO SHUT DOWN.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FAR AS ENERGY? WHAT DO WE NEED TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT? SHUTTING DOWN? AT WHAT POINT IS THERE TOO MANY WINDMILLS, TOO MANY SOLAR, LIKE WE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED AND IT'S ALMOST, I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE FROM A PS NEEDS TO BE HERE TO LIKE SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOUR COUNTY IS USING, THESE ARE WHAT THESE TOWNS, THESE AREAS ARE USING.
WE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THE ENERGY ALL WORKS FOR OUR COUNTY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THIS MESHES, BUT I THINK WE NEED THAT EDUCATION AS WELL TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO BE APPROVING MORE BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA LOSE A BIG POWER SOURCE OR DO WE NEED TO BE APPROVING LESS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MAKING SENSE HERE, BUT IF WE COULD FIND OUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WOULD BE AWESOME.
CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, THERE CHAIRMAN AND, AND YES, THESE, THESE PROJECTS ARE LARGELY DRIVEN BY SRP AND A PS.
WE HAVE TRANSMISSION LINES THROUGH THE COUNTY FROM BOTH OF THOSE COMPANIES.
SO IT'S LARGELY DRIVEN ON THEIR MANDATES AND NEEDS THAT COME THROUGH, EITHER FROM LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED AT THE STATE OR ANTICIPATION, ANTICIPATION OF ANY SHUTDOWNS OF PLANS OR OTHERWISE.
I CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO ENGAGE WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMISSION DIRECTLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE WORST I CAN DO IS ASK FOR CERTAIN WITH THAT ONE AND, AND SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME IN FOR A WORK SESSION OR OTHERWISE TO, I WOULD THINK THAT OUR PLANS SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME KIND OF MESH TOGETHER BECAUSE IF WE'RE PROVING THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT ALL KIND OF GOES TOGETHER WITH THEIR POWER, YOU KNOW, THE POWER PLANT THAT PRODUCES THE POWER.
BUT IF THEY SHUT DOWN, THEN WHAT AND HOW DO WE MAKE UP FOR THAT? AND IF WE DENY ALL THESE RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES AND THEN WE WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND OUR LIGHTS DON'T TURN ON BECAUSE THE POWER PLANT SHUT OFF, THEN WE'RE ALL GONNA BE UPSET WITH OURSELVES.
I, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION THEN, 'CAUSE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE FARMS THAT WE HAVE GOING OUT THERE, THE WIND FARMS AS WELL AS THE, THE SOLAR FARMS AREN'T PROVIDING ANY ENERGY TO ANY PARTS OF NAVAJO COUNTY.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I DON'T HAVE ANY INFLUENCE OVER WHERE THE, THE POWER COMPANIES PROVIDE THEIR ENERGY.
I CAN CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT THE CHOA POWER PLANT DOES NOT DIRECTLY SUPPLY ONLY TO NAVAJO COUNTY.
THERE'S A SURPLUS OF ENERGY, UM, AND QUITE A BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO I CAN TELL YOU CERTAINLY, UM, WE DON'T USE SRP IN THE COUNTY, BUT WE HAVE SRP LINES THAT RUN THROUGH THE COUNTY.
SO WITH THAT YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT THERE'S ENERGY NEEDS FOR THE, THE COMPANY AS A WHOLE THAT WOULDN'T DIRECTLY SERVE THE COUNTY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN SOME SORT OF MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REFERENCE TO COMP 24 DASH 0 0 1 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
I MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE NAVAJO COUNTY FUNDING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE TO THE NAVAJO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE NAY AND ALL THE REST WERE IN FAVOR.
DID YOU HEAR MAYBE, UH, WE COULD GET COMMISSIONER HOWELL AND COMMISSIONER JOHN, COULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE AND UH, LET US KNOW YOUR VOTE.
CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? I DON'T THINK WE CAN HEAR THEM IS THE PROBLEM.
COMMISSIONER HOWELL, ARE YOU THERE? UH, HANG ON SECOND IF YOU ARE, YOUR MUTE IS ON.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN HEAR THEM.
SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THE AUDIO HERE IN THE CHAMBERS IF YOU'D LIKE.
CHAIRMAN, YOU COULD HAVE THEM, UH, PUT THEIR VOTES WITHIN THE CHAT WHILE SHE FIGURES OUT THE AUDIO, BUT OKAY.
GO AHEAD AND, UH, IF YOU DIDN'T
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HEAR CODY, PUT YOUR VOTE IN THE CHAT AND WE WILL RECORD IT.[5. MDP-A 24-002 ROCK CREEK DEVELOPMENT MDP-A, DISTRICT III: Consideration of a request by Allen Land Development, LLC for a Master Development Plan Amendment for Phases II, III, and IV of White Mountain Lake Vistas, which allowed for a total of 216 single-family lots, to a new Master Development Plan which will allow for 24 single-family lots, 133 manufactured homes, 133 multi-family units, storage and parking facilities, golf course, and undisturbed/recreation area in the White Mountain Lakes area. APN#: 304-21-371Q, T11N, R22E, S15 of the GSRM. Owner: Allen Land Development, LLC. Agent: Virginia Senior.]
OKAY, THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.UH, THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS FIVE AND SIX ARE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WE WILL RECOMMEND THIS MOVING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UH, THE, THE NUMBER SEVEN, IT WILL BE A FINAL.
SO WHAT WE SAY HERE WILL BE THE FINAL.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL HAVE THE HEARING AND THEN OUR VOTE WILL GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER HEARING WHERE THEY WILL ACTUALLY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
SO THIS IS NDPA 24 0 0 2 ROCK CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THIS IS IN DISTRICT THREE AND IT IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST BY ALLEN LAND DEVELOPMENT LLC FOR A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT FOR PHASE TWO, THREE, AND FOUR OF THE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE VISTA, WHICH ALLOWED FOR A TOTAL OF 216 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, UH, TO A NEW MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH ALLOWS FOR 24, UH, SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, 133 MANUFACTURED HOMES, UH, A HUNDRED AND LET'S SEE, 1 33 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, STORAGE AND PARKING FACILITIES OF GOLF COURSE AND A RECREATION AREA, UH, IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES.
UH, WE WILL HAVE CODY PRESENT THIS TO US.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.
GIMME JUST A MOMENT TO GET THE PRESENTATION UP HERE.
I THINK I GOT IT FIXED, BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE YOU POINT OUT THE OH, COOL.
WORKS A LITTLE BETTER THAT WAY.
ON THIS ITEM AS YOU JUST STATED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MASTER OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS IS A VICINITY MAP THAT SHOWS THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE PROPOSAL WITHIN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES AREA.
IF, AND I WILL HAVE A CLOSER UP PHOTO AFTER THIS FOR EVERYONE.
UM, SO TO THE WEST YOU DO HAVE JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT TO THE EAST YOU HAVE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES UNIT THREE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST ACROSS THE, UH, THE CREEK WASH AREA THERE.
UM, TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES VISTAS UNIT ONE, WHICH IS, UH, I GUESS AN EXPANSION OF THE, THE SITE BUILT HOMES FROM JUNIPER BRIDGE, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH YOU HAVE STATE LAND, AN ENTIRE SECTION THERE.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS YOUR CLOSEUP.
SO YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE WITHIN THIS UM, JUNIPER RIDGE RIGHT THERE TO THE WEST.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE PORTIONS OF THE JUNIPER RIDGE GOLF COURSE SORT OF INTERSPERSED AND THROUGHOUT WITH THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES HERE.
UM, SO THIS GIVES YOU A SLIGHTLY BETTER VISUAL.
I THINK HE'S GOT, SORRY, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS ONE LATELY.
SO JUST AS A, A SUMMARY AS YOU BROKE DOWN THERE, CHAIRMAN, UM, THIS IS ON PARCEL 3 0 4 2 1 3 71 Q.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 67.20 ACRES OWNED BY ALLEN LAND DEVELOPMENT LLC.
AND AS YOU HAVE NOTED, UM, THE EXISTING USE THAT'S HERE, THERE WAS AN APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THERE WERE 300 TOTAL SINGLE FAMILY UNITS THAT WERE APPROVED.
UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED AS PHASE TWO, THREE AND FOUR WHERE THE CHANGE IS REQUESTED.
UM, SO THE FIRST PHASE HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
THERE WERE 84 LOTS CREATED OUT OF THAT, LEAVING 216 LOTS WITHIN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT COULD BE PLATTED AND DEVELOPED, WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS TO AMEND FROM THOSE 216 REMAINING SINGLE FAMILY UNITS TO THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU JUST CREATED.
THE SUMMARY ON FOR A TOTAL OF 290 MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH 24 OF THOSE BEING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON APPROXIMATELY FIVE AND A HALF ACRES, 133 MANUFACTURED ON APPROXIMATELY 23.9 ACRES AND 133 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON APPROXIMATELY 7.38 ACRES.
OF NOTE, AS OF NOTED AND SHOWN THERE IS THE EXISTING GOLF COURSE WITHIN HERE, APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES AND INTERSPERSED, UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED AN UNDISTURBED CREEK BED AREA ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THAT PROPERTY.
I, UH, NOTED THAT THAT SEPARATES FROM ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS IN THE AREA AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 16 TOTAL ACRES THAT THEY PROPOSED TO LEAVE UNDISTURBED.
THEY HAVE PROPOSED SOME STORAGE AND PARKING AND I'LL HAVE A MAP SHOWING ALL OF THIS IN JUST A MOMENT.
UM, CONNECTION TO AN EXISTING WATER SYSTEM IN CONNECTION TO AN EXISTING SEWER SYSTEM.
DID WANNA SHOW YOU JUST THE EXISTING MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PROPOSAL FOR THE AMENDMENT HERE, UM, I REALLY APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS THE BEST WE HAVE FROM WHEN THIS WENT THROUGH.
IT WAS A, UH, HEAVY ENGINEERING DOCUMENT FOR SURE AT THAT TIME.
UM, THIS IS THE REMAINDER OF THAT DEVELOPMENT SHOWING THOSE 300 LOTS AND THERE ARE SOME PHASE LINES.
UM, THIS IS A GOOD A COPY AS WE
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HAVE STILL.SO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, I WILL HAVE A ZOOMED IN PORTION HERE.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE ON THIS SLIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE KEY NOTES THERE ON THE RIGHT, I KNOW THEY'RE A LITTLE SMALL, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE POWERPOINT HERE.
THERE IS A NOTED A HUNDRED FOOT OFFSET LINE FOR A MINIMUM 55 YEAR AGE REQUIREMENT.
UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE OF COURSE ON THIS, WE'LL ZOOM IN, BUT THERE IS A DASH LINE THAT INDICATES PROPERTIES THAT THEY WOULD BE PROPOSING TO AGE RESTRICT ADJACENT TO THE, UH, THE VISTAS HERE AS WELL AS JUNIPER RIDGE.
THIS GIVES YOU A SLIGHTLY BETTER VIEW OF THE, THE LEGEND AS WE HAVE IT.
SO IN THE YELLOW, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO WHERE YOU HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH THE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE VISTAS, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, UH, ADJACENT AND KIND OF THE TANISH COLOR I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY HERE.
UM, ALONG HERE YOU HAVE MANUFACTURED HOMES PROPOSED ADJACENT TO THE JUNIPER RIDGE RV AND PARK MODEL RESORT.
UH, UP TOWARDS THE FRONT, AS YOU GET UP HERE TO THE MAIN ROAD, YOU HAVE THE STORAGE AND PARKING AREA PROPOSED AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY IS, UH, LIMITED TO THE INTERIOR OF THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THAT DISCUSSED CREEK BED UNDISTURBED AREA.
SO ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, WAS THE PROPOSED DENSITY FEELING THAT THERE WAS, UH, TOO MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN THE DENSITY FROM THE 216 LOTS THAT WERE APPROVED TO THE 290.
UM, WE JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH AND, AND SHOW WHAT WE HAD FOR DENSITY FOR THE EXISTING PLAN, WHAT REMAINED, UM, WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE AND SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'VE NOTED THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, SO WITH THE EXISTING, YOU HAD JUST OVER THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH THIS, UM, ABOUT ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE, GREATER AT 4.32.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN PLATTED IN JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT, YOU HAVE 3.81 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE VISTA'S 3.82, THEY WENT VERY SIMILAR ON THE DENSITIES.
AND THEN WITHIN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE UNIT THREE ACROSS FROM THAT CREEK ON DISTURBED AREA 3.11 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
SO THIS SLIDE WILL BE A LITTLE LONG.
UM, JUST 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR IT.
THE APPLICANTS DID HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING AS REQUIRED BY US AHEAD OF TIME THIS YEAR ON AUGUST 22ND.
THEY ADVERTISED THAT MEETING ON AUGUST 6TH, 55.
COMMUNITY MEMBERS UTILIZED THE SIGN IN SHEETS THAT THEY HAD THERE ON SITE.
THE, UH, THE DEVELOPERS ESTIMATE THAT THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 60 PEOPLE, SO A FEW I THINK JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN IN.
UM, THIS MAP IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY AND SO WITH THAT PRESENTATION THEY WENT, THEY LISTENED TO CONCERNS, UM, AND THEY GAVE US A REPORT.
UH, IT'S INCLUDED IN ALL OF YOUR PACKETS.
AS FAR AS WHAT WAS SAID, WHAT CONCERNS CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY AND DISCUSSED OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THE CONCERNS RAISED ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE THAT STAFF HAS RECEIVED AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AS A PART OF THIS HEARING PROCESS.
UM, SO I MAY END UP REPEATING THESE OVER A COUPLE OF SLIDES, BUT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ADDRESSED.
UM, THERE WAS CONCERNS OVER THE CAPABILITY OF WATER, FIRE, SEWER, MEDICAL POLICE IN THE AREA.
UM, THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION AND THE AESTHETICS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS OVER THE IMPACT TO WILDLIFE.
LACK OF AGE RESTRICTION ON THE PROJECT, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS, I WILL JUST REMIND THE, THE COMMISSION THAT THE COUNTY NOR THE COMMISSION, UM, NO ONE IN THE GOVERNMENT ENFORCES DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THOSE ARE ALL PRIVATELY ENFORCED.
IT'S A PRIVATELY AGREED TO DOCUMENT.
UM, NONETHELESS WAS A CONCERN BROUGHT UP.
AND I DID POINT OUT THAT THAT AGE RESTRICTED THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED HERE.
UH, THERE WAS CONCERNS OVER THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CAPACITY WITHIN THE AREA, UM, DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS SOLELY SINGLE FAMILY AND AGE RESTRICTED, UH, DENSITY, LIGHT POLLUTION IMPACT TO WATER RETENTION IMPACT TO THE LAKE POLLUTION POTENTIALLY THROUGH THE, THE CREEK AREA THERE AS WELL.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, TYPES OF USES PROPOSED SUCH AS CAMPING AND STORAGE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH, THEY HAD PROPOSED A CAMPING AREA ALONG THE CREEK.
UH, I CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK TO THE OTHER MAP TO SHOW YOU.
ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE UNDISTURBED.
THEY'VE REMOVED THAT BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A FEW OF THOSE CONCERNS FROM WHERE UH, STAFF ADDRESSES THESE.
AND THEN WHERE THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE ADDRESSED THEM OR COULD ADDRESS THEM IS WE DO HAVE A, WILL SERVE FROM TIMBER, MESA FIRE AND MEDICAL SERVICE FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A FIRE STATION THERE IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE AS WELL.
UH, THERE ARE CONDITIONAL WILL SERVES FROM THE WATER AND SEWER COMPANY IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE WILL HAVE A LATER SLIDE FOR ANY TYPES OF THOSE SYSTEMS. WE REQUIRE FULL DESIGN AND REPORTS.
WE'RE AWARE OF CONCERNS OVER THE, UH, THE LIMITATIONS AND CAPACITY OF THOSE.
UM, SO IMPROVEMENTS WOULD CERTAINLY NEED TO BE MADE.
UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE TRAFFIC AND THE ROADWAYS, TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
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PROJECTS BY US.IF ANY IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE NECESSITATED DEPENDING ON THOSE RESULTS, IT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER.
IT WOULD NOT GO ON ANY TAXPAYER WHATSOEVER.
AND THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE, THE ANTICIPATED TRIPS THAT WOULD COME INTO THE COMMUNITY HERE.
UH, WE DO HAVE A LIGHTING ORDINANCE.
IT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, TRY TO LIMIT AS MUCH LIGHT POLLUTION AS WE CAN HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, AS I NOTED, INCLUDED A PORTION OF THEIR, THEIR PROJECT AS BEING AGE RESTRICTED.
UH, THE APPLICANT AS NOTED AGAIN, HAS REMOVED ALL CAMPING FROM THIS SITE, UH, AND LEFT THE CREEK BED AREA UNDISTURBED.
UH, THEY HAVE SLIGHTLY DECREASED THE DENSITY.
THEY'VE TAKEN, UH, SORRY, THEY'VE TAKEN 17 UNITS OFF OF THE MULTIFAMILY.
UH, THEY'VE ADDED THREE TO THE MANUFACTURED FOUR TO THE SINGLE FAMILY.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BALANCING, UM, BUT THEY HAVE SLIGHTLY DECREASED THAT DENSITY WITH THEIR PROPOSAL.
UM, AS A PART OF THIS, AS WITH ALL PROJECTS, WE BROUGHT THIS PROJECT TO ARIZONA GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT AND THEY RECOMMENDED HAVING AS LITTLE IMPACT AS POSSIBLE ON THE RIP WASH AREA, WHICH THE DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN TO THAT THEY WILL LEAVE UNDISTURBED.
AND THEY ALSO NOTED TO AVOID DISTURBING BALD EAGLES, WHICH NEST NORTH OF WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE, SO NOT QUITE IN THE VICINITY.
THEY JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE MESSING WITH THEM IF THEY CAN AVOID IT.
STEPH HAS ANALYZED THIS PROPOSAL.
THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME THERE.
IN THE ANALYSIS STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THIS PROJECT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
BASED ON STAFF ANALYSIS OF THIS PROJECT, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE 10 CONDITIONS SHOWN UP THERE ON SCREEN.
AS OF WRITING THE STAFF REPORT, WE HAD RECEIVED 11 COMMENTS AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
AS OF TONIGHT, WE HAVE RECEIVED 24 COMMENTS AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
SOME OF THESE WILL BE REPETITIVE, BUT I WANT THEM NOTED.
UH, SO THE LACK OF AGE RESTRICTION, MANUFACTURED HOMES BEING PROPOSED IN THE AREA, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS NOT BEING DESIRABLE OR NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT NEEDING ADDITIONAL RBM VEHICLE STORAGE IN THE COMMUNITY, HAVING CAMPING ON SITE, WHICH HAS BEEN REMOVED.
UH, ABILITY FOR EXISTING ROADWAYS TO HANDLE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEIR CAPABILITY TO HANDLE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DENSITY IMPACT ON WILDLIFE AND ENVIRONMENT LIGHT POLLUTION, A PERCEPTION THAT CRIME WOULD INCREASE IN THE AREA WITH MORE PEOPLE PRESENT AS WELL AS NOISE.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UH, YOU WILL NOTE WITH QUITE A FEW OF THESE CONDITIONS HERE, WE REQUIRE FOR ANYTHING WHERE THERE COULD BE CONCERNS OVER THE POTENTIAL FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT THERE HAVE TO BE REPORTS AND PLANS THAT ARE DESIGNED AND GONE THROUGH ANY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER.
AND IF THEY WERE UNABLE TO MEET THOSE, THEN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE NOLL AND VOID AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THEM.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK CODY A QUESTION? SURE.
UM, ON THE DEED RESTRICTIONS MM-HMM
SO THE, THE COUNTY HAS ZERO TEETH TO ENFORCE THAT AT ALL.
SO DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T MEAN A WHOLE LOT.
IS THAT THEY'RE, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? OR, THEY'RE CIVILLY LITIGATED.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WITH ATTORNEYS AND COURTS DEED RESTRICTIONS AS WELL AS CCNRS ARE PRIVATELY AGREED UPON DOCUMENTS AND THUS, AS A PUBLIC AGENCY, WE HAVE NO ABILITY FOR ENFORCEMENT.
WE HAVE NOTED SOME AREAS WHERE WE, WE HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND WHERE THE, IT APPEARS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS ACKNOWLEDGED THOSE.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY, IF THERE WAS ANY NON-CONFORMANCE THAT WERE TO CREATE AN ISSUE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CIVILLY, UH, BROUGHT FORTH.
IT WOULD NOT BE BROUGHT FORTH IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY ITSELF.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE, AND IF SO, WOULD THEY LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO US? YES.
HI, MY NAME'S ARIANNA MEDINA AND I REPRESENT ROCK CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED IF I HAVE MY ARCHITECT ON SPEAKER IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I MAY YEAH, GO AHEAD.
RIGHT NOW WE WON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
YOU, YOU JUST HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR PROJECT IF YOU WANT TO.
UM, ALL WE'D LIKE TO SAY IS WE REALLY ARE EXCITED TO BRING THIS PROJECT INTO FRUITION AND WE ARE REALLY, UM, THANKFUL FOR THE COMMITTEE AND ALL, YOU KNOW, JUST THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS YOUR CHANCE TO TALK AND, UH, SPEAK YOUR MIND ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL LISTEN TO THOSE COMMENTS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
YOU'LL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, AND YOU'LL BE REMINDED LIKE WE WERE IN THE LAST ONE.
IF YOU GO OVER, PLEASE TRY TO AVOID REPETITION.
IT'S GETTING LATE AND I NEED TO GO TO BED.
SO IF IT'S THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER, JUST COME UP AND SAY, HEY,
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IT'S THE SAME THING AS THE LAST GUY.I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, JUST TRY NOT TO RE TO REPEAT SO MUCH.
BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO IN THIS ORDER.
I THINK WE HAVE SIX COMMENTS, SO WE'LL GO WITH PAUL P AND THEN WE'LL GO KATHLEEN, AND THEN DEB, AND THEN ROBERT, KATHY AND WOODY.
SO PAUL, FIRST IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND, UH, TALK TO US.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
I RESIDE IN 1918 PASSAGE DRIVE IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE VISTA'S, UNIT ONE.
CAN WE GET THE, UM, FLAT BACK UP THE SURE.
I DON'T, WELL, I GUESS WE CAN ASK HER.
I RESIDE AT, IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THE LIGHT BLUE WITH THE CIRCLE ON THE TOP.
I LIVE IN THE HOUSE LIKE IN HERE TO THE NORTH.
YES, THERE'S A, A GLAZER POINTER RIGHT THERE.
LIKE HERE, OTHER SIDE, OTHER SIDE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THIS THING.
WELL ANYWAY, WHERE THAT RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE ORANGE, RIGHT WHERE THAT CUL-DE-SAC IS.
MY HOUSE IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THAT LINE.
WHEN I LOOK OUT MY FRONT DOOR, I'M GONNA LOOK AT THAT DARK PURPLE AREA.
THEY'RE WITHIN LIKE 300 FEET OF MY HOME.
THAT OBLITERATES MY VIEW OUT TO THE EAST.
IT'S GONNA OBLITERATE THE VIEW OF ALL THOSE HOMES ALONG PASSAGE DRIVE.
THAT IS A CONTINUATION OF PASSAGE DRIVE FROM ONE CUL-DE-SAC TO THE OTHER BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THERE.
IT'S GONNA OBLITERATE THE VIEWS OF ALL THOSE NEW PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE COMING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT IF IT'S EVER COMPLETED.
UM, MY SECOND COMMENT WILL BE THEY'VE ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE UNITS HAVE TO BE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS EXISTING LOTS HAVE TO BE AGE RESTRICTED.
I THINK THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS GATED FOR ONE THING, AND ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY ARE AGE RESTRICTED.
WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS JUST HAVING HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE EXTENSION OF PASSAGE DRIVE, BEING AGE RESTRICTED.
THAT MEANS THAT THE HOUSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET WILL BE AGE RESTRICTED, BUT THEIR NEIGHBORS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET WON'T BE AGE RESTRICTED.
WHAT BENEFIT IS THAT? IT DOESN'T MAKE AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ADDRESS.
MY COMMENTS HAVE ALSO BEEN SENT TO YOU IN THE LETTER.
OKAY, KATHLEEN, SORRY IF I DIDN'T PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY.
MY NAME'S KATHLEEN BECK AND I LIVE AT JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT.
AND OUR CONCERN IS THE SEWER AND THE WATER SUPPLY.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS TO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO DEB BEMAN, BISMARCK DES BISMARCK, COME ON DOWN, LIKE THINK UP.
SO I REALLY HAVE A, I'M GONNA COMMENT ON ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS.
GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR FULL NAME.
DEBBIE BISMARCK, 85 92 FOX CIRCLE.
UM, MY, I HAVE A SAME THING FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.
THE NEXT TWO ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS DOWN ONBOARDING RANCH ROAD.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 800 PROPERTIES APPROVING TONIGHT IN A, IN A, PUT THAT COUPLE SLIDES BACK UP THERE.
CAN YOU BACK THAT UP? A COUPLE SLIDES RIGHT BEFORE THAT, THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT 300 HOMES IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.
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LOOK AT ALL THE EMPTY SPACE THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN SOLD SINCE 90.MA'AM, COULD YOU STAND AT THE PODIUM SO IT GETS RECORDED? OKAY, THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE THAT LARGE OPEN AREA THERE THAT THEY WANNA PUT 300 HOMES IN THERE OR HOMES MANUFACTURED, WHATEVER.
FIRST OF ALL, THE GOLF COURSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOESN'T EVEN BELONG TO THEM, BUT BELONG.
IT'S JUNIPER RIDGE, IT'S JUST ON THEIR PROPERTY.
NOBODY EVEN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONVENIENCE STORE THEY WANNA PUT IN THERE, WHICH IS ON YOUR LIST RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF TWO DIFFERENT DOLLAR GENERAL AND THE LOCAL STORE.
THEN YOU GOT THOSE 300 THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN WITH ALL THAT EMPTY STUFF TO THE EAST OF IT.
THAT WHITE MOUNT LAKE ESTATES WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1962.
THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SOLD THAT OUT YET.
HOW DO WE NEED MORE, MORE DEVELOPMENT THEN? GORDON RANCH JUST DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROVING ANOTHER OVER 500 LOTS THERE.
WE, WE ARE AT, AT CAPACITY AT JUNIPER RIDGE'S SEWER STATION AND OUR OWN SEWER STATION.
PEOPLE PULL, CAN'T PULL PERMIT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CONNECT INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PAY TO, TO UPDATE THE, UH, SEWER PLATE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS STUFF IN? ARE THEY GONNA UPDATE ALL THE WATER TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY THE WATER? WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT? NOT ME.
WHY? WHY SHOULD THE RESIDENTS ALREADY HEAR THAT HAVE EITHER HAD TO GET A SEPTIC TANK OR HELP PROVIDE THEM TAXES TO UPDATE THE WATER SYSTEM? THESE DEVELOPERS, IF THEY WANNA DO THAT, AND WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MILLIONS OF TIMES, THEY BAIL.
I MEAN, I ASKED THE GUY AT THE MEETING, THE MEETING IN AUGUST THAT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD OF THAT PROPERTY, ALL ROCKY PLACES TO TRIP, NOTHING TO COVER PEOPLE OVER IN THE BOILING HOT SUN WITH NO COVER STANDING OUT THERE FOR TWO HOURS LISTENING TO UNPROFESSIONAL PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THAT SHE LOOKS MORE PROFESSIONAL TODAY THAN SHE DID THAT DAY.
BUT YOU GOT PEOPLE OVER 50 STANDING OUT IN THE BROILING HOT SUN FOR TWO HOURS, YOUR HAZARDS EVERYWHERE.
AND I, WHEN I ASKED THE GUY, I SAID, HEY, SO WHAT? THANK YOU DEB, THAT THAT'S YOUR TIME.
WILL YOU APPRECIATE, CAN I HAVE MY OTHER SIX MINUTES SINCE I HAD I SIGNED UP FOR ALL THREE? UH, YOU CAN, WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THOSE COMMENTS, YOU'LL BE WELCOME TO SPEAK.
I LIVE AT 1855 ANGLERS LANE, JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THERE WERE THREE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT STARTED.
ONE WAS JUST NORTH OF JUNIPER RIDGE.
THEY PUT IN A BIG RV PARK, IT WENT DOWN THE DRAIN.
NOTHING HAPPENED DOWN BY THE AIRPORT.
THERE'S ANOTHER BIG DEVELOPMENT WENT IN.
NOTHING'S BEING DONE ABOUT THAT.
AND THEY'RE GONNA COME IN HERE AND TRY TO PUT 300 HOMES IN HERE TO THAT LITTLE TINY AREA.
HOW ABOUT THE FIRE DISTRICT? IF THEY GOT 300 HOMES IN THERE AND THERE'S A FIRE COME IN, WE ONLY HAVE TWO ESCAPES.
WE EITHER GO SOUTH OR NORTH, AND WHEN WE GO NORTH, WE GO EAST OR WEST.
IF YOU GOT A FIRE COMING IN, WHICH THE WIND WILL OPEN TO SOUTHWEST, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO.
THE ROAD IS VERY LATE, VERY SMALL, VERY 90 DEGREE CORNERS, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE TRY TO GET OUT OF THERE FOR THAT FIRES.
SO I WANT YOU TO KIND OF CONSIDER THAT.
WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT? YOU GUYS AREN'T, ARE THEY GONNA PAY BIG, UH, TWO LAID, BIGGER, WIDE LOADS IN? WHO KNOWS? PLUS THE FACT WE HAVE THREE HERDS OF ELK THAT ARE IN OUR PROPERTY.
THEY ALSO ROB IN THAT AREA THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THEM.
WE CAN SHOW YOU ALL THE PRESENTS YOU WANT.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DROPPINGS EVERYWHERE IN THE PLACE,
AND THE SECOND THING IS THEY SAY YOU GOT A GOLF COURSE.
THE ORIGINALLY PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY A JUNIPER RIDGE HO, UH, VISTA DEPARTMENT.
THEY SOLD A PROPERTY THAT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE AN ANYTHING BUT A 55 AND OVER DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT, HOW THEY GOT THAT SCREWED AROUND SO THEY COULD PUT YOUNG PEOPLE IN IT, BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 55 AND OVER.
THE TWO HOLES WERE ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME.
IF THEY WANNA SAY THEY GOT A GOLF COURSE, WELL THEY GOT TWO HOLES.
WE'RE GONNA PUT EM BACK OVER AT OUR PROPERTY AND WE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM TO PUT MORE WHERE OUTSIDE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE OURS.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY THANK YOU.
AN EASY LAST NAME TO PRONOUNCE.
UM, KATHLEEN LOVE 2 71 JUNIPER
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RIDGE RESORT.UM, WHEN WE MOVED HERE, WE WERE, UM, TOLD THAT THE VISTAS, UH, WOULD CONTINUE TO BE DEVELOPED AROUND THE, UH, THE OTHER TWO HOLES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THERE.
UM, THIS DEVELOPER IS SAYING THEY'VE GOT A GOLF COURSE, BUT WE PAY HOAA FEES TO MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, CAN YOU LEAVE THAT MAP UP? AND ACTUALLY THE, THE REAL COLORFUL ONE, THE NEW ONE THAT'S GOT THE APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING, UM, SO WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT PART? THEY DON'T HAVE A GOLF COURSE.
THEY HAVE TWO HOLES, JUST LIKE WHAT, UH, BOB SAID.
AND UM, AND THEN THEY WANNA PUT APARTMENTS NEXT TO THOSE GOLF COURSE FAIRWAYS.
AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME.
THEY'VE GOT ONE SECTION, THEY SAID IT'S JUST ON THE WEST SIDE FOR 55 PLUS.
UM, WHO'S GONNA KEEP THAT STRAIGHTEN UP? YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENTS, UM, YOU'VE GOT KIDS, YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO THE GOLF COURSE.
DOES, ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO ASSUME THAT THEY CAN COME OVER TO OUR PRO SHOP AND PLAY THE 18 OR ARE THEY JUST GONNA PLAY ON THOSE TWO FAIRWAYS? SO, UH, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE, UM, THE APARTMENTS.
I THINK THAT THE DENSITY, THE FIRE PROBLEMS, WE JUST LOST OUR FIRE INSURANCE BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH RISK AREA FOR FIRE.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO PERSONALLY REDO OUR FIRE ASSUR INSURANCE IN JUNIPER RIDGE.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN IN OUR PARK IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
SCHOOLS, IT'S JUST A SMALL PORTION THAT'S 55 PLUS ALL THE KIDS IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BUSED UP TO, UM, TO, UH, SNOWFLAKE, UM, AND TAYLOR OR DOWN TO SHOW LOW, BUT THAT'S A HALF HOUR EITHER WAY THAT KIDS ARE GONNA BE ON BUSES.
SO WHO'S GONNA BUILD SCHOOLS IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER THOUSAND PEOPLE? UH, 2000 PEOPLE.
IF EVERY ONE OF THESE UNITS PLUS THESE OTHER TWO IS A FAMILY OF FOUR, THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S JUST CRAZY ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROPOSALS.
THIS ONE, UH, SEEMS VERY DENSE.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAPPEN DOWN IN PHOENIX OR OVER IN LA WHERE THEY'RE JUST CRAMMING ALL THESE HOUSES INTO A TINY LITTLE AREA.
I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT OUR ELK.
THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, IT'S A GROWING HERD AND THIS WOULD COMPLETELY DISRUPT THAT.
UM, SO I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERNS ARE THE GOLF COURSE, HOA FEES.
HOW ARE THEY GONNA PLAY ON THIS GOLF COURSE THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY HAVE? BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF JUNIPER RIDGE AND THE VISTAS.
WOODY GRABBING BAUER WOODY GRAVEN BAUER, UH, LOT 4 35 JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT.
UH, WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE UTILITIES.
THE, UH, AS A RESIDENT OF WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE COMMUNITY, I'M AWARE THAT, THAT, UH, THEY WANT TO TAP INTO THE EXISTING WATER SYSTEM AND UH, THEY'LL USE IT FOR BOTH POTABLE AND NON-POTABLE WATER FOR FIRE EXPRESSION.
WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH MESA FIRE AND THERE'S CONCERN TO PUT ALL THE ADDITIONAL TAPS INTO THEIR SYSTEM AND THAT CAN THEY MAINTAIN THE WATER PRESSURE? THERE'S A CONCERN THAT WE, IF THEY HAVE A MAJOR FIRE, THE WATER PRESSURE WILL BE SO LOW THEY CAN'T REALLY HANDLE THE FIRES.
AND WE'VE TALKED TO 'EM A COUPLE THREE TIMES ON UH, UH, HOW THEY COULD DO THAT.
BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME, SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE EXPANDED AND ALLOW IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
HOW DO YOU PUT THAT MANY HOMES IN TO A SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY TAXED AND EVERYTHING? THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, UH, SEWER SYSTEM.
UH, WE, WE CURRENTLY ARE, UH, WITH VOYAGER, I THINK IT IS A WATER SYSTEM.
AND UH, IT'S A SMALL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WE HAVE UP THERE IN SILVER CREEK.
AND THE INTENT IS TO DEVELOP, OR WE UNDERSTAND IT'S TO TAP INTO THAT RIGHT NOW THERE AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR EXPANDING THAT WHOLE SEWER SYSTEM? YOU CAN'T JUST TAP INTO ONE THAT'S AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY ALREADY.
AND WE'VE TALKED TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM WITH SEWER SYSTEM FROM, FOR THE FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH JUNIPER RIDGE.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT? HOW ARE YOU GONNA MAYBE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT? WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THE WATER'S GONNA WORK.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE SEWER'S GOING TO WORK AND THERE'S NO INFORMATION FROM THE DEVELOPERS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY IT FOR ANYTHING
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TO EXPAND THAT SYSTEM.THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S GONNA CREATE THE MAJOR PROBLEMS IN BOTH WATER AND SEWER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MY TIME IS PROBABLY ABOUT UP.
I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK MORE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED ALREADY.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO CLO UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WHICH MEANS UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UM, I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONERS.
UH, FOR QUESTIONS TO, UH, EITHER CODY OR THE APPLICANT.
CODY, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TIMBER MESA FIRE.
THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEY WILL SERVE THIS AREA.
DO THEY JUST SIT AT THEIR OFFICES AND ACROSS FROM THE AIRPORT AND SHOW LOW AND SAY, YEAH, WE'LL DO IT? OR DO THEY COME OUT AND CHECK WATER PRESSURES AND STUFF? LIKE WHAT IS THEIR PROCESS? YEAH, SO LIKE WITH ALL WHEEL SERVES, MOST OF THEM TEND TO BE CONDITIONAL OF WE WILL SERVE, IF YOU MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS THAT EXIST, COMMISSIONER LATHAM.
UM, SO IT'S VERY COMMON FOR THEM TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA COME OUT AND WE'RE GONNA DO A PRESSURE TEST OF THIS PROPERTY.
IF YOU PASS THAT PRESSURE TEST, THEN WE WILL SERVE, YOU HAVE THE WATER CAPACITY FOR US TO FIGHT AND COMBAT A FIRE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
NOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WATER PRESSURE, THAT IS WHERE, UM, THE CONDITIONAL PART OF THAT WILL SERVE COMES IN, AND THEY WILL START TO EMPLOY REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS HAVING BOOSTING OF THE WATER TO INCREASE THE PRESSURE.
OFTENTIMES, ESPECIALLY IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE, WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS, THEY MAY REQUIRE YOU TO PUT IN SOME TYPE OF WATER STORAGE TANK THAT HOLDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GALLONS THAT THEY'VE CALCULATED TO COMBAT A FIRE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
UM, SO THAT WILL SERVE IS CERTAINLY NOT A A BLIND, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
IT IS A, WE ARE WILLING TO, IF WE MEET AS THIS MOVES FORWARD AND YOU MEET ALL OF OUR CONDITIONS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO COMBAT A FIRE WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.
THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION THEN IS AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS IS IT 90% DEVELOPED BEFORE IT GETS TO THERE? OR IS IT BEFORE THE FIRST SHOVEL'S TURNED? BEFORE THE FIRST SHOVEL IS TURNED? OKAY.
WE HAVE FIRE REVIEW OF ANY TYPE OF OUR PERMITS THAT GO THROUGH FROM THE HEARING LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO YOUR BUILDING, YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL RESIDENCE.
SO BEFORE ANY SHOVEL IS TURNED, THERE HAS TO BE THE FIRE APPROVAL AND THE CONDITIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE MET FOR THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND I'M ASSUMING THE SAME WOULD GO FOR THE SEWAGE.
UM, CAN YOU CLICK THE NEXT SLIDE? I WON'T HELP WITH THE SEWER, BUT I'LL HAVE JUST ANOTHER POINT OF CLARITY HERE 'CAUSE I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY COME UP.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE WATER AND SEWER, THOSE ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES OUT THERE WITHIN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE.
WE ARE AWARE OF THE CAPACITY ISSUES THAT EXIST ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.
WE DON'T CONTROL ANY UTILITIES.
UH, IF WE DID, WE WOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO CONDITION UP FRONT, RIGHT? UM, SO THEY'VE RECEIVED A CONDITIONAL WILL SERVE FROM THESE COMPANIES.
THOSE WILL SERVE, SAY THAT THERE MAY NEED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSITATED.
NOW, WE, AS THE COUNTY CANNOT SAY FOR YOU KNOW, WHOM IS GOING TO PAY THAT BILL.
I WILL SAY THAT IT IS TYPICAL OF ANY DEVELOPMENT.
THE DEVELOPER THAT CREATES THAT INCREASE IS RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR THAT INCREASE IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE FULL SANITARY DESIGN AS WELL AS FULL WATER DESIGN, UM, BEFORE GOING IN WITH A NO LONGER CONDITIONAL FORMAL WILL SERVE FROM THOSE, UH, THOSE DIFFERENT COMPANIES, UM, AWARE THEY'RE WORKING ON A, A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT THEY'VE HAD OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, LIKE FIRE, UH, THESE ONES, IF, IF THOSE CANNOT BE MET, THEN NO DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR IN THIS PLACE.
IT IS THE SAME WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE SOME SAY IN THAT ONE.
AND WE REQUIRE TRAFFIC STUDIES.
IF THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES SAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED, LIKE WIDENING TURN LANES, ET CETERA, THOSE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AS, AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL PRIOR TO, AGAIN, HITTING THE CONSTRUCTION STAGES.
AND THOSE COSTS WOULD BE WHOLLY AT THE DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE.
THERE ARE NO TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT GO INTO THOSE WITH THE COUNTY IF, IF YOU WOULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, 'CAUSE IT, IT SEEMED TO BE A PRETTY COMMON COMMENT THERE WITH THE, THE PUBLIC ON THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, WITHIN THAT APPLICATION, THEY HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT'S OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT CONVEYED THAT AS IT'S AN AMENITY.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY JUST CONVEYED IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KNOW THERE JUST HAPPENS TO BE OWN IN THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S NO CHANGE TO ANYTHING.
YES, THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THIS OUT AND PEOPLE SAY, HEY, ARE YOU AWARE YOU HAVE TWO HOLES OF OUR GOLF COURSE INTERSPERSED WITH YOUR PROPERTY? THEY JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT IS THERE, THAT EXISTS.
THAT IS NOT A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP.
THEY'VE NEVER CLAIMED ANY OWNERSHIP OR RIGHTS TO THAT GOLF COURSE.
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CHAIR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF, IF THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT, THEN THESE, THESE UTILITIES DON'T GET UPDATED AND DON'T GET IMPROVED.
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT IS EXPENSIVE.
UH, THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NICE GUYS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA WILL INCUR THE COST OF THOSE UPDATES AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IT REQUIRES DEVELOPMENT AND PEOPLE COMING IN TO MAKE IMPROVEMENT TO THESE AREAS.
THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE THE CASE.
UH, IT'S EITHER THAT OR INCREASED FEES FOR THOSE THAT UTILIZE THE SYSTEMS. I, UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE THAT THEY, IT PUT IN AN EMERGENCY FEE FOR THEIR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE HERE WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, WHICH HAS ADDED TO THE BILLS OF ALL OF THOSE CONSTITUENTS WITHIN THE AREA WITH THE PRIVATE COMPANY THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION.
SO IF, IF SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO FOOT THE BILL, YES, IT'S TYPICALLY GONNA BE A DEVELOPER COMING IN.
OTHERWISE THERE'S AN INCREASED INCURRED COST TO THOSE THAT EXIST BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE MONIES TO INFLUX AND IMPROVE THOSE SYSTEMS. THANK YOU.
OKAY, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED? 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY APPROVED MM-HMM
SOME PORTION RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ADDING TO IT.
BUT WHAT DO, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY LOTS ARE ALREADY APPROVED? YES.
YEAH, SO WE, THIS IS PHASES TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
IT IS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
THERE ARE 84 LOTS WITHIN PHASE ONE.
THERE WAS 300 THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
SO FOR WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR AN AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE 200 SIXTEENS, SINGLE FAMILY AGE RESTRICTED SITE-BUILT HOMES THAT ARE APPROVED WITH A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, BUT LIKE THE MULTIFAMILY IS NOT APPROVED, IT'S JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES CURRENTLY.
SO, SO WHAT'S ON FILE, WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED WAS A PART OF THE VISTAS IS THOSE UNITS WITH THE TWO 16.
AND THAT'S, SO THE DEVELOPERS COME THROUGH AND PROPOSED THEIR SINGLE FAMILY, SOME MANUFACTURED HOMES, STORAGE AND PARKING, MULTIFAMILY, ET CETERA.
THAT IS WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.
IF THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT WERE TO BE REJECTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THEIR HEARING, UM, THEN THE EXISTING MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD STAY IN PLACE.
I WILL NOTE WITH THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, WE'VE CERTAINLY WORKED ON OUR PROCESSES SINCE THE MID TWO THOUSANDS.
WE DO HAVE A CONDITION WITHIN HERE ON OUR CONDITIONS PAGES, IF IT'LL, I SAY IT DOESN'T WANT TO WORK FOR ME, THEY HAVE 24 MONTHS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
IF THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, THEN IT WILL BE WIPED FROM THE COUNTY ROLES AND ERASED.
THAT WAS NOT IN PLACE UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE WHITE MOUNTAIN LIKE VISTA DOESN'T, BECAUSE THEY ALSO COMPLETED UNIT ONE, IT WOULD'VE STAYED REGARDLESS.
UM, BUT IF THERE IS NO PROGRESS IN MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS THE COMMISSION AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITHIN TWO YEARS, THEN THIS PROJECT WILL CEASE TO EXIST AS FAR AS OUR FILES ARE CONCERNED.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT DENSITY SLIDE THAT YOU HAD? SO, I DON'T KNOW, AT LEAST FOR ME, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAY THAT I, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE VIEWS, THINGS LIKE, UH, THE ELK POPULATION, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO CONTROL.
I MEAN, UNLESS YOU GO AND BUY ALL THE LAND, YOU CAN'T CONTROL THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
BUT THIS IS A MUCH, MUCH HIGHER DENSITY THAN EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF WANNA WONDER IS, IS THERE'S, IS THERE'S NOTHING OPPOSED TO IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASSUMING STAFF IS OKAY WITH IT.
BUT WHY ARE WE ALLOWING, UH, 25% MORE, UH, DWELLINGS PER UNIT IN THIS ONE COMPARED TO SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES? SO THOSE WERE THE PROPOSALS THAT CAME THROUGH ON THIS.
JUNIPER RIDGE RESORT WAS ALSO A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE VISTA AS WAS, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE UNIT ONE HERE.
UM, WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE UNIT THREE I, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY WAS PART OF A VERY OLD MASTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRETY OF, OF WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES THAT EXISTED.
UM, NOT REALLY A A BINDING MASTER PLAN THAT WAS JUST KIND OF, HEY, WE GOT A BUNCH OF LAND THAT SOLD.
WE NEED TO START PLANNING OUT THIS COMMUNITY HERE.
UH, SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT COMPARED TO THOSE OTHER PLANNED COMMUNITIES IS APPROXIMATELY A HALF A DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE.
IF YOU DO LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR GOALS AND POLICIES, A LARGE PART OF THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE A MIXTURE OF HOUSING USES THAT CAN GO TO DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION AND TO ENCOURAGE DENSITIES THAT WOULD BE AT HIGHER RATES WHEN PEOPLE ARE BRINGING IN A MIXTURE OF THESE HOUSES TO SUPPLY MORE TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THE STAFF SUPPORT COMES FOR THAT HALF DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE.
MORE THAN SOME OF THESE ADJOINING PROPERTIES OR EVEN POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT OVER ONE DWELLING UNIT FOR THE MUCH OLDER UNIT.
THREE IS THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR A MIXTURE OF HOUSES FOR PEOPLE OF, OF PRICE RANGES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, THERE'S NOT A TON OUT THERE.
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OTHER MULTI-FAMILY, UH, ZONED PARCELS IN THIS ENTIRE AREA? I GUESS YOU COULD SAY YES AND NO.I, UH, IN A WAY, YES, IN A WAY, NO, I'M TRYING TO GET HERE TOO.
SO YOU DO, YOU DO HAVE THE CONDOMINIUM PRETTY FIRST.
I DON'T REMEMBER ANY APARTMENTS OVER THERE.
SO YOU DO HAVE THE CONDOMINIUMS HERE.
THE, THE LAKEFRONT CONDOMINIUMS THAT EXIST AT THIS POINT RIGHT HERE.
UH, YOU DO HAVE A ZONE CHANGE THAT WAS APPROVED HERE FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME, UH, SUBDIVISION, UH, WHICH WAS MULTIFAMILY.
SO YOU DO HAVE SOME APPROVED MULTIFAMILY.
YOU DO HAVE SOME VERY LIMITED MULTIFAMILY HERE ON THIS, UH, THIS AREA.
BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, NO, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY WITHIN WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST APARTMENTS ESSENTIALLY THAT WE WERE PUTTING IN THIS AREA THAT'S MOSTLY AGE RESTRICTED? WELL, NOT REALLY.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THE, THE APARTMENTS ARE SHOWN WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE, THE BOUNDARY THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS INDICATED TO THIS POINT IN TIME IS A HUNDRED FEET.
SO IT'S MORE OF THE EDGES OF THE MANUFACTURED AND SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SITE BUILT.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE, THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY, UM, WHICH AGAIN, FOR MULTI-FAMILY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THIS COMMISSION WITH A FULL SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP.
UM, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD FOR THESE TYPES OF USES AT THESE TYPES OF DENSITIES.
ANY ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION WITH ALL OF THESE TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE THE FORMAL WILL SERVES THE REPORTS, THE DESIGNS.
SO THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN OF DO YOU EVEN ENTERTAIN THE DENSITY AND USES AND THEN IF SO, TO COME BACK WITH THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT HERE ON THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE NAVAJO COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE NAVAJO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND MR. CHAIR.
I HAVE, I WAS A NAY AND, UH, TWO COMMISSIONERS UP THERE.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, TYPE, TYPE IN YOUR VOTE.
EVERYONE ELSE WAS APPROVING ABOVE THE OFFICER.
I, YES, THOSE WERE JUST SUBMITTED.
[6. TP 24-003 SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH, VILLAGE B, DISTRICT III: Consideration of a request by Show Low Holdings 307, LLC, and Universal Show Low Properties, LLC, for a Tentative Plat allowing for 350 lots consisting of recreational vehicle spaces, park model homes, and manufactured/modular homes, as well as 28 tracts, and accompanying roads. The request is located on an approximately 175.68-acre parcel located to the south of White Mountain Lakes. APN#: 304-57-033D. Owner: Show Low Holdings 307, LLC and Universal Show Low Properties, LLC. Agent: Greg Loper.]
THE NEXT ONE.WE HAVE TP 2 4 0 0 3 SOLOW MOUNTAIN RANCH.
WE WILL HANG ON A SECOND, JUST LET EVERYONE CLEAR OUT IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE, I'LL STAY IN BY.
THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, TP 2 4 0 0 3 SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH VILLAGE B DISTRICT THREE, CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST BY SHOW LOW HOLDINGS 3 0 7 LLC AND UNIVERSAL SHOW LOW PROPERTIES LLC FOR A TENTATIVE PLAT ALLOWING FOR 350 LOTS CONSISTING OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLE SPACES, PARK METAL HOMES, AND MANUFACTURED MODULAR HOMES AS WELL AS 28 TRACKS AND ACCOMPANYING ROADS.
THE REQUEST IS LOCATED ON APPROXIMATELY 175.68 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES.
WE HAVE THE AGENT, GREG LOPPER IS HERE AND, UH, PRESENTATION MY STAFF.
UH, COMMISSIONERS CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.
TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR THIRD TENTATIVE PLAT OF THE YEAR HERE.
UH, THIS IS SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH.
THIS IS OUR THIRD TENTATIVE PLAT OF THE YEAR, UH, FOR SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH VILLAGE B UH, WE ARE SITTING ON A PN 3 0 4 5 7 0 30 3D.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 175.68 ACRE PARCEL.
CURRENTLY ZONED SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY
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OWNED BY SHOW LOW HOLDINGS 3 0 7 UNIVERSAL SHOW LOW PROPERTIES.THE, UH, REQUEST DESCRIPTION TONIGHT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FOR 350 LOTS CONSISTING OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK MODEL AND MANUFACTURED HOUSING SPACES.
THEY WILL HAVE THEIR PRIMARY ACCESS OFF OF BORDEN RANCH ROAD AND THEY DO HAVE SECONDARY EMERGENCY EGRESS ACCESS PLANNED TO THE SOUTHEAST THAT WILL CONNECT TO ROUNDUP DRIVE.
THEY ARE PLANNING ON HAVING 26 TRACKS.
FOUR ARE GONNA BE DEDICATED TO PRIVATE STREETS AROUND 21 ACRES.
THE REMAINING 22 ARE DEDICATED TO OPEN SPACE, COMMON AREA AND DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT TOTALS APPROXIMATELY 109 ACRES.
THE LOT SIZES RANGE FROM 0.1 TO 0.18 ACRES WITH AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF 0.12 ACRES.
JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT ONE EIGHT KIND OF AN OUTLIER.
MOST OF THESE LOTS ARE SITTING ABOUT AT THE 0.1, ONE ACRE MARK.
SOME MORE, UH, DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT TONIGHT.
THE SETBACKS FOR THESE LOTS, THEY ARE PLANNING ON DOING A FOUR FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK, AN EIGHT FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK, A THREE FOOT INTERIOR SIDE, UH, INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK, SO LOTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
AND THEN A 20 FOOT STREET SIDE SETBACK.
SO IF YOUR SIDE'S ON THE STREET 20 FEET BACK, THEY DO HAVE AN EXISTING WATER TANK AND WELL, AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED A WILL SERVE LETTER, UH, FROM WACO INDICATING THAT THEY WILL BE THE ONES TO OPERATE AND MANAGE THEIR WATER SYSTEM.
THE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE SERVED BY AN ONSITE WATER COLLECTION SYSTEM AND THAT WILL BE MANAGED AND OPERATED BY THE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE SANITARY DISTRICT, WHO HAS ALSO PROVIDED A WILL SERVE LETTER.
THEY WILL HAVE PAVED ROADS AS WELL.
AND THOSE ARE TO BE MAINTAINED BY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT WILL BE CREATED AT A LATER DATE.
THEY, I'VE ALSO PLANNED FOR OPEN SPACE CORRIDORS AND TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE, UH, PERIMETER IN THE INTERIOR OF THE, UH, VILLAGE BEE.
AND THEY HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A 300 FOOT BUFFER, UM, WITH BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAILS ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY.
AND THAT'LL BECOME A LITTLE CLEAR HERE IN A MOMENT.
HERE'S OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, KIND OF WHERE WE ARE HERE IN THE COUNTY JUST OVER A MILE AND A QUARTER AWAY, UH, FROM KIND OF WHERE THE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES AREA BEGINS ALONG BOARD AND RANCH ROAD.
AND THIS IS A LARGER VIEW OF THE PARCEL ITSELF AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS TODAY.
THIS IS AN IMAGE, UH, JUST KIND OF SHOWING THE OVERALL PLAT.
THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BROKEN IT UP INTO DIFFERENT SHEETS.
UH, THE PLANNING AS WELL AS THE ENGINEERING DEPART, UH, DIVISIONS HAVE REVIEWED THIS AND IT DOES MEET THE STANDARDS OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AS WELL AS OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
UH, SO WE'LL JUST RUN THROUGH IF I CAN GET IT BACK.
SO THIS IS, UH, WE ARE SITTING SHEET THREE.
WE ARE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER HERE AND, UH, UH, SHOWING THE MAIN ROAD MOVING DOWN SOUTH, UH, THAT IS THE CONNECTOR THAT LEADS TO THEIR EMERGENCY EGRESS POINT.
CONNECTS DOWN TO ROUNDUP, DRIVE DOWN TO THE SOUTH, MOVING A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE NORTHEAST.
NOW THIS IS SHEET FIVE, JUST ILLUSTRATING THOSE LOTS.
LIKE I SAID, A BULK OF THEM ARE GONNA BE THE 0.11 LOTS ON THE CORNER.
MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER COMING DOWN SOUTH TO SHOW THE, UH, SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH LOOP, ONE OF THE MAIN ROADS FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY.
COMING UP WE CAN SEE SOME OF THE, UH, DETENTION BASINS, SOME OF THE TRACKS THAT HAVE BEEN DEDICATED MOVING FURTHER DOWN SOUTH.
AND THEN HERE WE ARE ALONG BORDEN RANCH ROAD, UH, WITH OUR FIRST ACCESS POINT, KIND OF LEADING INTO THE NORTHERN PORTION, UH, WHERE THE LOTS ARE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT SLIGHTLY FURTHER DOWN SOUTH THAT LEADS FURTHER INTO THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS TENTATIVE PLAT, IT DOES MEET THE RELEVANT GOALS AND POLICIES OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THOSE SUBDIVISION AND ZONING ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE.
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, COMPATIBLE LAND USE PATTERNS, MULTIPLE ACCESS ROUTES, DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS WHERE FIRE PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, AND QUALITY DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT, NOT WATER, WASTEWATER AND CIRCULATION SYSTEMS. AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF WE CAN GET TO MY RECOMMENDATION HERE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS TENTATIVE PLAT FOR VILLAGE B SUBJECT TO THE 14 CONDITIONS HERE.
AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, THIS IS YOUR DECISION TONIGHT.
YOU WILL BE MAKING THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS TENTATIVE PLAT.
WE DO HAVE OUR DEVELOPER HERE AS WELL.
I'M HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING TO US,
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MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS GREG LOPPER.MY ADDRESS 2 2 5 7 5 WEST MOJAVE STREET AND BUCKEYE, UM, I THINK STAFF SUMMED IT UP EXTREMELY WELL REGARDING THE OVERALL PROJECT.
IF YOU RECALL, I WAS BEFORE YOU ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHEN WE DID THE ZONING AMENDMENT.
THIS FURTHER SOLIDIFIES IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
UH, COUPLE THINGS TO JUST EXPAND UPON FROM THE PREVIOUS CASE THAT KIND OF CARRY OVER TO THIS, AS WELL AS COMMENTS THAT CODY HAD AND AS TYLER AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO TYLER, CODY, KRISTEN, FOR GETTING ME TO THIS POINT.
UM, IT'S BEEN A FUN LITTLE PROJECT SO FAR.
WE DO HAVE THE WILL, SIR FROM THE FIRE DISTRICT TIMBER MESA, AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM AS WE GO THROUGH FURTHER THROUGH THE DESIGN STAGE OF THIS.
I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE WATER PRESSURES AND THAT WE CAN MEET THEIR NEEDS.
FIRE HYDRANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.
WE DO HAVE A, I WOULD CALL IT MORE THAN A WILL SERVE, BUT CERTAINLY A WILL SERVE FROM WACO IN TERMS OF WATER BACK PRIOR TO THE RECESSION THIS PROJECT INITIATED.
AND AT THAT TIME THEY PUT IN A, UH, WELL AND A PUMPING SYSTEM.
UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN RE-UPPED, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S BE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEDICATED TO WACO.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ACCEPTING IT.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF WASTEWATER, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A WILL SERVE FROM THE SANITARY DISTRICT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
UM, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM.
WE'RE AWARE, AS I THINK YOU ALL ARE, THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SYSTEM UPGRADES THAT NEED TO OCCUR WITH THAT.
AND, UH, WE'LL BE ASSISTING WITH THAT FINANCIALLY AND THEN AS WELL AS CONNECTIONS COME ON.
I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT YES, AS NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES ON, WE ALL PAY FEES INTO UPGRADING AND ENHANCING THOSE SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S WASTEWATER, FIRE, DISTRICT, WATER, UH, WHATEVER.
WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE.
UM, I UNFORTUNATELY LEFT MY POWERPOINT, BUT I DID PRINT OUT, THIS WAS GONNA BE MY COPY, BUT I DID PRINT OUT WHAT I CALL THE PRETTY PICTURES OF THE PROJECT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
IT'S NOT THE BLACK AND WHITE TENTATIVE PLAT.
IT SHOWS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE OPEN SPACE AREAS AND THE AMENITIES THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THIS.
UM, I, I BELIEVE TYLER MENTIONED THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS.
UH, THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS IN NAVAJO COUNTY.
UH, WE ARE DOING ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS TO BORDEN RANCH ROAD AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND, UM, THE AMENITIES WILL BE SERVED BY THE HOA THAT WILL BE CREATED TO, UH, TO ASSESS EACH OF THE PROPERTIES TO MAINTAIN THESE IMPROVEMENTS GOING FORWARD.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE CARDS FOR SOMEONE THAT IS IN FAVOR, BUT DEB, YOU'RE BACK UP TO THE HOT SEAT.
SO AGAIN, THEY ARE TYING INTO OUR SEPTIC SYSTEM, OUR SEWER SYSTEM.
DEBBIE BISMARCK, 85 92 WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE, ARIZONA, WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
I AM A BOARD MEMBER, SO YES, I AM HERE FIGHTING FOR MY CONSTITUENTS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE, AGAIN, THIS IS A SEWER THING.
MY ISSUE IS IF WE'RE PLANNING THAT, WE NEED TO PLAN AHEAD AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE UPGRADES ARE MADE BEFORE THEY TAP IN.
WE'RE ALREADY PAYING $30 A MONTH FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO GET THE WATER SYSTEM TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED, THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHATEVER, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR WATERS AT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR US.
NOW WE WANNA TIE UP IN ANOTHER 800 BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM.
THEY'RE NOT AFFECTING OUR WATER SYSTEM AT ALL.
THEY'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA AFFECT OUR SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH IS AT CAPACITY.
NOW, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SEWER SYSTEM BECAUSE I HAD TO PUT IN A SEPTIC TANK.
SO, AND MOST OF THE COMMUNITY IN WHITE, MIKE LAKE COMMUNITY IS ON A SEPTIC SYSTEM.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE NOT EVEN ISSUING ANY PERMITS TO BUILD AT THIS POINT UNTIL IT IS UPGRADED.
YOU CAN'T TAP INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM UNTIL THE UPGRADE IS MADE.
SO WHAT COMES FIRST? THE CHICKEN OR THE HORSE, THE COW, THE EGG, WHATEVER.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR ROADS AND ALL THAT.
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HIM ESPECIALLY, I MEAN LIKE, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE THEY'RE AT BECAUSE THEY HAVE AMERICA, OCALA, FLORIDA, WHICH I'M FROM OCALA, SO I KNOW IS EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY'S FROM ARIZONA THERE.
AND THEY GOT A NEW SMYRNA BEACH, FLORIDA ADDRESS.
THEY'RE, THAT'S WHERE THE DEVELOPERS ARE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT, I, I'M ENJOYING GONNA ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY START TRYING TO DIG IN THE ROCK UP HERE.
'CAUSE IT AIN'T SAND AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ONE HECK OF A TIME.
I, I JUST, I DON'T SEE UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ADDRESSED AS TO HOW THEY'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT.
THEIR WATER DOESN'T MATTER TO ME AT ALL.
IT'S COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, BUT IT MATTERS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT LIVE THERE THAT RELY ON THAT SEWER AND NO PROMISES.
I THINK THEY SHOULD PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE OR MONEY TO ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE THEY TURN THE FIRST SHOVEL.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE HERE TODAY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S TIRED OF COMING IN AND HEARING APPROVED APPROVED.
THAT DOESN'T HELP US OUT THERE.
WE DON'T GET IT IN THIS, IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY IS JUST LIKE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AGAIN, I WANTED TO JUST MENTION TWO THINGS.
INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, SEWER LINE WAS PUT IN THAT EXTENDS FROM OUR PROPERTY TO THE SANITARY DISTRICT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
ONE'S A FORCE, MAIN ONE'S A GRAVITY FEED.
SO SOME, SOME INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN INSTALLED WITH THIS.
AND THE SECOND THING IS, MY ADDRESS TODAY IS BUCKEYE.
I GREW UP IN TAYLOR, WENT TO PROUD GRADUATE OF SNOWFLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
I STILL HAVE A HOME IN TAYLOR.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT MY MAILING ADDRESS, WHICH IS THE BUCKEYE ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
IN ARIZONA, I POINTED THAT OUT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR MR. LOPER? I HAVE ONE FOR MR. LOPER.
SO THE WELL YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT'S COMING ONLINE.
IS THAT ON YOUR PROPERTY ALREADY? IT'S A, IT'S CROSS BOARD.
IT'S PART OF THE SCHOLA MOUNTAIN RANCH MASTER DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE MASTER PLAN HAS COMMERCIAL ONBOARDING RANCH ROAD, WHICH WAS UNTOUCHED IN THE AMENDMENT, BUT THIS IS ON THE E THE WATER, WELL THE BOOSTER STATION.
THE LIFT STATION THAT'S ALL ON THE EAST SIDE.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DEEDING THAT LAND TO WACO.
THE, UM, THE WATER TANK AND THE BOOSTER PUMP FOR THAT.
THE, OBVIOUSLY THE LIFT STATION STUFF WOULD THEN GO TO THE SANITARY DISTRICT.
SO YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED TO THE WATER.
NOW WE OBVI, WE OBVIOUSLY GOT MA'AM, UNFORTUNATELY, THE PUBLIC PORTION'S CLOSED.
SO WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO PLEASE, UH, KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF.
THE, UH, THE, THE BOOSTER PUMP IS IN AND THE WELL SYSTEM.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PUT IN THE WATER SYSTEM WITHIN THE STREETS AND TO SERVE THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND HOMES.
BUT, BUT YEAH, THE, WELL, THE WELL WAS YOURS, THE, THE DEVELOPERS, CORRECT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST ONE.
WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE SEWAGE IS AT CAPACITY, YET THEY SAID WE CAN TAKE IT ON SOME SOMETHING'S WRONG SOMEWHERE HERE.
EITHER IT IS AT CAPACITY AND THEY CAN'T TAKE IT ON, OR IT'S NOT AND THEY CAN'T.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE REAL MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND I, I CAN'T I HAVE THE WRONG GLASS.
UM, I WOULD DEFER TO THE BOARD MEMBER WHO WOULD PROBABLY KNOW THE MORE UPTODATE STUFF.
SO THIS IS WHAT I KNOW OF THE SANITARY DISTRICT.
THEY ARE AT CAPACITY AND THEY ARE ALSO IN VIOLATION WITH A DWR, OR I'M SORRY, A DQ IN REGARDS TO THE DISCHARGE.
THEY ARE WORKING THEMSELVES TO ADDRESS THE DISCHARGE.
THEY CAN'T ACCEPT ANY MORE CONNECTIONS UNTIL THEY FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A RELATIVELY SIMPLE FIX.
IT'S LITERALLY A PLACE TO TAKE THE TREATED WATER AND DISPERSE IT OUT ONTO, ONTO LAND.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, THAT'S STEP ONE OF GETTING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE TODAY WITH A DEQ.
THE SECOND PART IS AN UPGRADE TO THEIR CAPACITY.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT OUR FEES GO TO, THAT WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY PUT MONEY IN ESCROW WHERE THEY'RE THE RECIPIENT OF IT.
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FEES TO ADDRESS CAPACITY TO MEET THE OBLIGATIONS OF OUR AGREEMENT.SO THAT HELPS THEM HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, CERTAINLY TO MEET OUR NEEDS.
BUT YOU DON'T DO IT IN FEW HUNDRED CHUNKS.
YOU DO IT IN THOUSAND UNIT CHUNKS.
AND I'M, I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING IT 'CAUSE FRANKLY I'M NOT THAT SMART TO KNOW ALL THE DETAILS, BUT IT IS AT CAPACITY TODAY.
THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING NEW, UM, CONNECTIONS EVEN OUTSIDE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE ARE PROVIDING FUNDS TO HELP THEM UPGRADE FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AS WE BRING UNITS ONLINE OR HOMES OR LOTS.
THOSE ALL HAVE AN A FEE THAT GOES WITH THEM THAT HELPS 'EM MEET THAT.
UM, IT IS, IT'S NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION, BUT WE ARE WITHIN THEIR, UM, AREA, IF YOU WILL, AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT.
SO WE'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY MOTIVATED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN MEET OUR NEEDS AND THE NEEDS OF THAT AGREEMENT.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST US, IT'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
IF EVERYTHING WERE TO ROLL SMOOTHLY FROM HERE ON OUT, JUST THEORETICALLY, WHEN WOULD YOU ESTIMATE YOUR FIRST HOME TO BE PLACED OR, SO OUR NEXT STEP ARE FULL IMPROVEMENT PLANS.
WE HAVE THE BASIC ONES IN PLACE NOW.
SO WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN, PREPARATION AND THEN APPROVAL AND THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
ALONG WITH THAT, WE WOULD GET OUR GRADING PERMIT AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT.
SO MY GUESS IS WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED ALL OF THE TWO YEARS.
UM, THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE FIRST HOMES IN IT.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CAUSED THE PROBLEM WITH IT DEVELOPING UNDER THE INITIAL SCENARIO.
IT NEEDS THE DENSITY THAT WE ARE ALREADY APPROVED FOR TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN.
SO IT, I WOULD SAY TWO YEARS, YOU PROBABLY START SEEING YOUR FIRST HOMES IN THE AREA.
SO JUST, I, I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC PORTION IS CLOSED, BUT THAT'S THE PROCESS OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS IS WE'RE NOT PLUGGING IN RIGHT NOW.
IT, IT'S STUFF THAT'S GOING GOING ON.
SO THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG ARE GOING AT THE SAME TIME.
HE'S PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS SOME OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURES AND THESE LAST ONES.
SO JUST TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNEW KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DO SHOW UP AND YOU HAVE CONCERN, BUT SOMETIMES THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ANSWERS TO PROBLEMS THAT ARE, ARE THAT ARISE.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT 'CAUSE YEAH, I'VE DEVELOPED PROPERTIES.
BUT, UM, IT TAKES A LONG TIME AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESS AND THIS IS JUST THE STEPS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE STEPS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, I WOULD ENTERTAIN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REFERENCE TO TP 24 DASH ZERO THREE SHO MOUNTAIN RANCH VILLAGE BI MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE NAVAJO COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS TENTATIVE PLA SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, THOSE OPPOSED PLEASE SAY NAY.
SOUNDS LIKE WE, UH, PASSED THEM UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. TP 24-004 SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH, VILLAGE D, DISTRICT III: Consideration of a request by Show Low Holdings 307, LLC, and Universal Show Low Properties, LLC, for a Tentative Plat allowing for 189 lots consisting of manufactured/modular housing and recreational vehicle spaces, as well as 22 tracts, with 1 offsite tract for access and public utility easements. This request is located on an approximately 48.52-acre parcel located to the south of White Mountain Lakes. APN#: 304-57-033F. Owner: Show Low Holdings 307, LLC, and Universal Show Low Properties, LLC. Agent: Greg Loper.]
ITEM, I'M NOT GONNA READ IT ALL BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING.UH, JUST FOR POSTERITY'S SAKE, THIS IS TP 24 0 4 SHOW MOUNTAIN RANCH VILLAGE D.
SO VERY SIMILAR TO OUR PREVIOUS PROPOSAL.
UH, 3 0 4 5 7 0 3 3 F THIS TIME, UH, SITTING ON A 48 ACRE PARCEL.
ALSO ZONED SD ALSO OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR 189 RESIDENTIAL UNITS CONSISTING OF MANUFACTURED SLASH MODULAR HOUSING AND OR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE SPACES.
THEIR PRIMARY ACCESS, AGAIN, BOARD AND RANCH ROAD VIA A PROPOSED SILVER LAKE BOULEVARD AND SHOW LOW MOUNTAIN RANCH LOOP.
THEIR SECONDARY ACCESS, OF COURSE, CONNECTING TO ROUNDUP DRIVE.
THEY ARE FOR THIS PORTION, UH, THEY WILL HAVE 22 TRACKS WITH ONE DEDICATED TO THE PRIVATE STREETS, ALMOST 12 ACRES.
THE REMAINDER OF THE TRACKS ARE DEDICATED TO THE OPEN SPACE, COMMON AREA, AND DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UH, WHICH COMES TO NEARLY 15 ACRES.
FOR THIS ONE, WE ARE LOOKING AT 0.1 TO 0.13 ACRES WITH AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF 0.12.
AGAIN, THAT 0.13, ONE OF THE CORNER LOTS THAT GOT A LITTLE BIGGER.
IT'S GONNA HAVE THE SAME SETBACKS.
IT'S GONNA BE OPERATED AND MANAGED BY WACO, WHO PROVIDED THE WILL SERVE LETTER FOR THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKE SANITARY DISTRICT WHO
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HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A LETTER FOR THIS PROPERTY.OUR VICINITY MAP, WE ARE TO THE NORTHEAST OF VILLAGE B.
UM, WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 0.96 MILES AWAY FROM THE AREA OF WHITE MOUNTAIN LAKES, KIND OF WHERE IT STARTS.
AND HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PARCEL ITSELF.
THIS IS THE PLAT SHOWING HOW THEY ARE INTENDING ON LAYING OUT, UH, THE, UM, PROPOSAL.
AND SO WE WILL BE STARTING WITH SHEET THREE THERE AT THE VERY NORTH, UH, WEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
FAIRLY BLANK WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT 30 FOOT, UH, PORTION THAT HAS BEEN DEDICATED AS A TRACT.
MOVING IN, THIS IS WHERE OUR DEVELOPMENT SORT OF BEGINS.
AREAS FOR DETENTION, UH, TRACKS THE LOTS, LIKE I SAID, SITTING AT 0.11 FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE PARCELS COMING DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION WHERE THE ACCESS IS ALONG THAT SILVER LAKE BOULEVARD.
AND THEN THIS IS COMING DOWN, UH, FURTHER SOUTH.
UH, SHEET SIX, THIS IS ON CHILLO MOUNTAIN LOOP, UH, TO THE TOP.
NOT A PORTION OF THIS PROPOSAL HERE TONIGHT.
OH, THIS IS, UH, THE VILLAGE B THIS IS A PORTION.
SO THERE, UH, ON THE VERY LEFT SIDE EDGE THERE THAT'S THERE.
EMERGENCY, UH, EXIT ROUTE LEADING TO ROUNDUP DRIVE.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE, UH, EAST ALONG SHO MOUNTAIN RANCH LOOP TO THAT CONNECTION INTO BORDEN RANCH ROAD.
SO SIMILAR TO OUR LAST ONE, UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS TENTATIVE PLAT.
UM, MANY OF THE SAME GOALS AND POLICIES HAVE BEEN MET AS THE LAST, UM, ITEM THAT WE HEARD.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
IF I CAN GET MY CONDITIONS UP.
UH, MR. LOPER HERE IS AS WELL.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS ONE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC PORTION.
AND AGAIN, DEB, IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I MUST SAY THAT HE HAS DONE MORE.
I'M STILL NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT, BUT HE HAS DONE MORE THAN THE ALLEN DEVELOPMENT WHO JUST WALKED OUT THE DOOR.
UM, TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT THIS EQUIPMENT, THE LIFT STATION AND ALL THAT THAT'S IN THERE, THEY DID NOT PUT IT, IT WAS PUT IN BY THE PRIOR DEVELOPER WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY, THEN THEY CHANGED THAT FROM THE 4 35 TO THE 800 OR SOMETHING.
I, I CAN'T EVEN KEEP TRACK OF IT ANYMORE.
IT'S CHANGED SO MANY TIMES, BUT THE, THAT'S JUST MY THING IS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS TAKEN CARE OF AND IF I COULD GET A COPY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE I LEAVE ON ALL THREE OF THE LOTS OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, UM, THE GUY FROM THE OTHER ONE SINCE I, HIS COMMENTS AND I CAN SAY WHATEVER I WANT, RIGHT? ALLEN DEVELOPMENT, WHEN I ASKED THAT GENTLEMAN WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW ARE THEY WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN FIRST AT THE, THE MEETING IN THE FIELD.
HE TOLD ME, WELL, THEY'RE HOPING TO SELL THE FIRST 20 OR SO LOTS FIRST AND GET SOME, UH, SEED MONEY TO PROCEED WITH THE REST OF IT.
SO THAT WAS MAKE ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
BUT HOPEFULLY THERE'S WAYS THAT YOU COULD STOP THEM IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY NEED AND DENY THEIR APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE'LL CLO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND WE'LL MOVE TO QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE COMMISSIONER IF YOU HAVE ONE TOWARDS STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.
AND IF YOU DON'T, UH, MOTION WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE NAVAJO COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS TENTATIVE PLA SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE.
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE A'S ON THE SCREEN UP THERE, SO, UH, WE WILL MOVE ON.
AND THANK YOU DEB FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
[8. CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE 2025 P&Z CALENDAR:]
WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE 2025 P AND Z CALENDAR.[01:55:01]
PROPOSED THE TYPICAL, UH, THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR THE COMMISSION THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, 6:00 PM I THINK KRISTEN MAY HAVE PREPARED AN ALTERNATIVE LIKE WE DO FOR CHRISTMAS.I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
IS THAT THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION? UM, WE DON'T, BUT RIGHT UP TO CHRISTMAS.
IF WE DID, WE WOULD FOR SURE WORK THAT OUT.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, AT, AT WHATEVER THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE HERE, WE ARE JUST RECOMMENDING THE, THE TYPICAL THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CALENDAR, FOR THE COMMISSION.
UNLESS ANYONE HAS THOUGHTS ON DATE OR TIME.
UM, I DID NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.
THEY ARE ALL FOR THE THIRD THURSDAY.
I FIGURED IT WOULD BE EASIER TO STAY CONSISTENT, UH, GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED THIS MONTH.
SO WE HAVE NO CONFLICT OF HOLIDAYS ON THOSE THURSDAYS AS WELL.
WE DO CHECK FOR THAT EVERY YEAR.
DON'T WANNA BE HERE ON THANKSGIVING.
DO WE NEED A MOTION THEN? I, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION THERE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT? A A AYE.
[9. ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR 2025: Election of Chair and Vice-Chair, effective in 2025.]
UH, ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR 2025.I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO DO THIS.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, WITHIN THE BYLAWS IT SAYS ANNUALLY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, IT DOESN'T STATE THAT THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR, JUST THAT IT NEEDS TO OCCUR ANNUALLY.
UM, FOR THIS YEAR, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THIS AND, AND AVOID WHAT WE HAD THIS PREVIOUS YEAR OF, UM, THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS RUNNING STRAIGHT INTO THE CHAIR, UM, LEADING THE MEETING, UH, JUST SO THEY HAVE SOME TIME TO MENTALLY PREP AND, AND GET READY FOR THAT ROLE.
UH, THESE ELECTIONS WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE UNTIL IT, IT WOULD NOT BE OFFICIAL UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, 2025.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE TIME TO DELIBERATE PROPERLY AND NOT PUT ANYONE UNDER UNDUE PRESSURE TO, TO LEAD A MEETING RIGHT AFTER THEY GET OUT OF WORK.
THE NEW CHAIRMAN WILL BE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER WAYNE TO BE THE, UH, I'M AFRAID I MISS HIS LAST NAME UP TRYING TO
I MIGHT ADD A G IN THERE, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TO BE THE CHAIRMAN FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE ELECTION OF THE VICE CHAIR AS WELL FOR NEXT YEAR, THOUGH.
COMMISSIONER HOWE MAY BE TYPING SOMETHING HERE.
HE'S GONNA TRY TO NOMINATE HIMSELF AND TRY TO COME TO ALL THE MEETINGS.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR OH NO, HE HAS, HAS NOTHING THEN I APOLOGIZE.
SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN ANY, UH, DISCUSSION AND, AND MOTION HERE FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE 2025 CALENDAR YEAR.
UH, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT OUR CURRENT VICE CHAIRPERSON CONTINUE.
SO SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OVER THE YEARS.
SHE'S BEEN HERE THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
HOW IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE'S RUSHING TO PUT HER UP THERE.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, THANK THAT WAS EASY.
IF YOU JUMP OUT AND MAKE A NOMINATION REAL QUICK.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMENTS AND OR DIRECTIONS TO STAFF? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE
[10. COMMISSIONER’S COMMENTS AND/OR DIRECTIONS TO STAFF: Commissioners may use this time to offer additional comments regarding any item on this agenda, or any other topic; and the Commission may direct staff to study or provide additional information on topics of the Commissions’ choosing.]
TO TODAY? NO QUESTION THAT I COMMENT.I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU, AND I WISH YOU ALL A VERY MERRY SAFE CHRISTMAS AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
UM, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHRISTMAS DAY FOR ME 'CAUSE IT'LL BE FIVE YEARS AGO AND CHRISTMAS, AND I LOST MY WIFE TO LYMPHOMA.
SO GET YOUR MEDICAL CHECKUPS, UH, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, WATCH OUT FOR PEOPLE ON THE ROAD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DIRECTIONS TO STAFF HERE, MR. CHAIR? I HAVE ONE COMMENT.
UH, I, I DON'T THINK WE PROPERLY THANK THE FOLKS WHO DID THE COMPREHENSIVE
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PLAN.UM, I KNOW HOW MUCH EFFORT AND WORK WENT INTO THAT.
UM, I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THE EFFORTS THAT, THAT YOUR FOLKS AND YOUR TEAM PUT INTO IT.
AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
IT WAS NICE GETTING TO MEET YOU FINALLY IN PERSON.
[11. REPORT FROM STAFF TO THE COMMISSION:]
REPORT FROM STAFF TO THE COMMISSION.SO WE'LL SEE IF COMMISSIONER HOWE HAS A, A COMMENT HERE.
ANYTHING FROM MY SIDE? I'M SURE ONE OF THESE WILL BE FIXING THE AB UM, THE AUDIO VISUALS.
WE, UH, WE RAN INTO A NUMBER OF ISSUES TONIGHT, SO A LOT OF OUR AUDIO VISUAL IS, UH, IT'S CONTRACTED WITH A THIRD PARTY AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE ROOT OF SOME OF THAT.
SO WE WILL TRY TO HAVE THAT FIGURED OUT AGAIN BY JANUARY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THAT THIS EVENING.
UM, AS I NOTED EARLIER DURING ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS, WE WILL HAVE SOME ORDINANCE UPDATES COMING TO YOU IN EARLY 2025, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HEAVY PRIORITIES PLACED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE WILL GIVE ADEQUATE TIME FOR FULL REVIEW FROM COMMISSIONERS AND INPUT.
UH, AS OF TODAY, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS READY FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN JANUARY.
UH, I'VE GOT UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY TO RUIN THAT
BUT, UH, AS OF CHRISTMAS, AS OF RIGHT NOW, ALL THE TIME, YOU MAY GET A BREAK TO START THE NEW YEAR HERE.
UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SERVICE.
I WILL INFORM ANYONE IF, UH, THE CANCELLATION OR IF WE'RE BACK ON, UH, WE WILL LOOK FOR SOME JUST REFRESHER TRAINING FOR OPEN MEETING LAW IN THE EARLY NEXT YEAR.
WE WANNA KEEP DOING THAT EVERY YEAR.
UM, JUST SO EVERYONE'S FRESH, EVEN OURSELVES, UH, WITH THAT.
WISH EVERYONE A MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR CONTINUING TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS.